First post debate poll suggests viewers thought Biden won 66% to 28%. Or something like that.
My overall take is I don’t think either candidate won. Which is a win for Biden. Trump needed a very clear win to alter momentum as Biden seems to be pulling away in various swing states likes Michigan and Pennsylvania, if the polls are to be believed. He did not get that clear win tonight.
The most noteworthy thing of substance was probably Biden’s blatant dodge when asked about Supreme Court stacking. Was actually probably the most blatant dodge of the night. Though I think it was probably a good idea to dodge that because no matter how he answers he will upset some group that may otherwise support him.
Trump had some really horrible moments. Bringing up Hunter Biden’s drug problem is frankly disgusting. I think if anything pushed the few undecided voters to one candidate it may be that moment. Even by Trump’s low standards of conduct and decency that was pretty low. Also him telling the proud boys to “stand by” was stupid. As well as all the constant interrupting and lack of zingers.
Biden lied.... a lot, but yeah, Trump constantly interrupting was not good for him.
I understand Trump's anger though when Biden pushes stupid already debunked lies like calling Trump an agent of Putin. Trump had every right to be pissed off over that. I would've interrupted to at that point and called Biden out on his BS.
The more I think about it, it’s really stupid for him to just lie about his son being kicked out for drugs.
Being kicked out of the military for drugs is an embarrassment as it should be.
And then to go on to be an oil and gas junkie in Ukraine? And somehow he would have got that job without his dad, is laughable.
Hunter Biden is an absolute shit show from his other than honorable discharge to banging his brothers wife to burisma m, to donating to known sex traffickers and more.
Originally posted by BackFire
Really don’t think most fair minded people will see it that way. Lying is one thing but attacking an opponent’s family in a very irrelevant way is much worse.
Why sit there in front of 200 million people maybe billions and says
“My son wasn’t kicked out of the military for drugs” when he actually was.
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Why sit there in front of 200 million people maybe billions and says“My son wasn’t kicked out of the military for drugs” when he actually was.
Defending your child is understandable. Lying to protect his honor is understandable. Attacking an opponent’s family member in such a way is not. In fact it is pointless. Very few voters give a shit about hunter Biden right now. Even I’m regards to the stuff that is fair game. Even fewer are going to give enough of a shit to go look if he was or wasn’t kicked out of the military. Would be like someone going after Trump’s troubled brother in a debate or something.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Oh, and I don't really care what the "polls"say about who won. Same way I didn't care about them when Trump debated Hillary when he clearly squashed her.This debate wasn't one of Trump's best performances that's for sure but I still wouldn't say he lost though.
It just shows to me that anyone who complain about Trump calling people names, Joe Biden uses the same rhetoric. We have all seen it today and against voters.
So the whole “I don’t like the way he talks” Joe Biden is exactly the same. This is where we are and it’s not just Trump and Biden who talk that way.
Everyone talks that way now, look in the mirror KMC
Originally posted by BackFire
Defending your child is understandable. Lying to protect his honor is understandable. Attacking an opponent’s family member in such a way is not. In fact it is pointless. Very few voters give a shit about hunter Biden right now. Even I’m regards to the stuff that is fair game. Even fewer are going to give enough of a shit to go look if he was or wasn’t kicked out of the military. Would be like someone going after Trump’s troubled brother in a debate or something.
It’s Convenient to not care about Hunter Biden now, but everyone seems to care about Don Jr back then.