Originally posted by BackFire
My early guess is Harris will be the nominee. Though I think Biden would probably have the easiest time beating Trump in the general election.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Kamala Harris is easily my least favorite among them. If she wins the primary I will unironically buy a MAGA hat and wear it to the voting booth in 2020
^ Mark it on your calendars, KMCers. November 3rd 2020 is the day DMB will reach his final form.
We all knew it was coming, but still.
Originally posted by mike brown
Dunno much about her... What's so bad about her?
1. Pandering further to the economic left- almost every candidate is doing this, it's not really a surprise or unique to her, but it is a tick against her in my book. When she goes so far on healthcare that she says she wants to eliminate private health insurance as an option. She also openly supports and defends the Green New Deal which is one of the most radical economic proposals to come out of the democratic party that I've witnessed in my lifetime.
2. She is the candidate of intersectionality in this race- So a lot of people on the left are advocates of the intersectional identitarian ideology, which I find personally abhorrent, and she is pushing this harder than any other 2020 primary candidate. I'm not a fan of identitarian ideologies, not when the alt-right does it, and not when the intersectional left does it, I think it's toxic, I think it supports governmental and corporate policies that discriminate against people based on their race/sex/etc. (which she also supports), and I think it is divisive and destructive to the cultural fabric of America. I have my problems with Bernie Sanders, but at the end of the day he's someone with the integrity to say don't judge people or vote for people based on their race or sex, which Kamala Harris disagrees with for some ****ing reason.
3. Criminal Justice- Criminal justice is actually one of the few areas I agree with the democrats more than the republicans on, however even with this I don't really trust Kamala Harris on this given her record as a state attorney general where she desired to criminally prosecute parents for truancy. The fact that I prefer the democrats to the republicans on this issue makes this worse for her, since she's beneath the baseline of one of the few things I look at the democrats favorably on.
4. Typical Democrat Social Issues (Abortion and Gun Control)- I'll address gun control first, not uniquely to Kamala Harris she's not someone I would trust to uphold the second amendment very well and spews the ridiculous unsophisticated rhetoric about "banning assault weapons." Abortion now... oh ho ho where to begin, she believes in a woman's "unrestricted right to choose" is in favor of late term abortions and thinks they should be paid for by the taxpayer, and as one of the Democrat 2020 candidates currently in the senate voted against a bill to protect the life of babies after they're born in botched abortion attempts. That just quite frankly disgusts me.
5. She gives me a Hillaryesque feel- Other democrats like Obama, or Bernie Sanders, or Beto, or even AOC as much as I dislike her, all feel sincere and all possess a sort of human charisma, they seem actually convicted by their ideals and seem to actually be able to relate to the public. But with Kamala Harris whenever I see a video of her or hear her speak, she has this really unsettling plastic or manufactured feel to her. She feels more like someone who will be propped up and extolled by the corporate media than someone who will ride a wave of sincere grassroots enthusiasm. This in conjunction with her obvious pandering to the criminal justice sensibilities of the left as a 2020 candidate, yet pursuit of some sketchy law enforcement shit to her own ideological ends and professional career as an attorney general, gives me the impression that she is more of a political opportunist and career politician than a more principled and sincere political actor. She feels like a manufactured corporate media candidate, a career politician, and an elitist.
Now most of these aren't unique to her, but the way they stack up for her specifically make her a uniquely horrible candidate from my vantage point.
Looking at the other candidates for example...
I could definitely ascribe 1 and 4 to someone like Bernie Sanders, he is pretty far to the left economically (likely moreso than anyone else running), and he's also very in favor of gun control and is one of the senators who voted against the Bill to protect the lives of those born in failed abortions. However he doesn't feel like a manufactured elitist career politician, I actually trust him with criminal justice, and though he rants about racism and sexism he's not the same kind of intersectional lunatic Kamala Harris is.
I could ascribe 4 to Beto O'Rourke, though at least he's not on ****ing record voting against the bill the democrats in the senate voted against. Any of the democrats are too far to the left economically for my liking, but Beto did actually support lower corporate tax rates in his senate run in 2018 so there's some hope there, he doesn't feel manufactured and actually has grassroots support, he's not a divisive intersectional nut, and I would actually trust him with criminal justice. He's the candidate I least dislike on the left.
I could definitely ascribe 2 4 and 5 to Kirsten Gillibrand, half of her twitter is just her spewing feminist nonsense about shit like the mythical wage gap, she's also extremely pro-choice, and she's a very flip floppy candidate on a lot of issues who strikes me as a political opportunist. I'm not familiar enough with her economic or criminal justice policies to make a judgment on 1 or 3.
I could tick Elizabeth Warren with at least 2 3 and 4, given her absurd stance on abortion as well, her wage gap and diversity quota shit, and she doesn't make me feel the most comfortable on criminal justice. I could maybe slap 1 on her as well, but I'm not feeling the 5 as much.
Cory Spartacus Booker I could slap a 1 2 and 4 on, given his pandering further to the left on, his repeated identity baiting, and again the vote against an unobjectionable bill to protect the lives of babies after they're born. But he's not giving me the 3 or 5 vibes.
And that's kinda the basic idea.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
5. She gives me a Hillaryesque feel- Other democrats like Obama, or Bernie Sanders, or Beto, or even AOC as much as I dislike her, all feel sincere and all possess a sort of human charisma, they seem actually convicted by their ideals and seem to actually be able to relate to the public. But with Kamala Harris whenever I see a video of her or hear her speak, she has this really unsettling plastic or manufactured feel to her. She feels more like someone who will be propped up and extolled by the corporate media than someone who will ride a wave of sincere grassroots enthusiasm. This in conjunction with her obvious pandering to the criminal justice sensibilities of the left as a 2020 candidate, yet pursuit of some sketchy law enforcement shit to her own ideological ends and professional career as an attorney general, gives me the impression that she is more of a political opportunist and career politician than a more principled and sincere political actor. She feels like a manufactured corporate media candidate, a career politician, and an elitist.
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Ive read stories and seen talk on reddit about how Harris was a big time **** in SF in her earlier years, and she was sleeping around to get to the top.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Ah **** I just remembered she's the one who slept her way into political relevance. **** lol. Shit.
"Former S.F. Mayor Willie Brown writes about dating Kamala Harris, appointing her to posts"
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Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Notice how the most morally deficient person (Harris) already has 4 votes and the only reason she doesn't have more is that Michelle Obama is on the poll.
I feel like Putinbot actually supports her, though I'll give Robtard the benefit of the doubt.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Willie Brown, who admits to giving her favorable career treatment as a result. (And he was married at the time)Seems both Kamala and Trump are both morally deficient when it comes to adultery.
So she’s definitely fit to be POTUS on the morals issue then, is what you’re saying?
To your other post, I didn’t vote for Harris in the poll, so you’re correct.