Originally posted by Artol
It’s bizarre to me how these stories of individual voter fraud or ballot stuffing are so popular when there’s little evidence of them occurring. Both parties have much more effective ways to skew the vote in their favor, whether that is gerry-mandering, or the disenfranchisement of certain groups, or just the standard “you have two choices and they are exactly the same”.But I guess the idea that someone in a Democratic headquarter is faking ballots, or the Republicans are registering long dead people to vote for them is much more visceral for people, even if it’s not true.
Actually, quite a few factual stories are popping up of voting impropriety. There's a ton of evidence. Almost all mail-in-ballot related. And it appears to disproportionately negatively affect Trump.
But Biden has been affected by these, too.
It's just a shitty way to vote. But, it is what it is.
I still can't believe the media (except for ones like FOX) and big tech is censoring the Hunter Biden story.
Some people seem to think that all he did was some crack and hired prostitutes. The truth is though that he did things much, much worse than that, and China has it all. It's obvious that China owns the Bidens. If Joe becomes president (God forbid), the CCP will extort him endlessly to get everything they want.
Doesn't surprise me that liars like Schiff are claiming it is all just "russian misinformation" lmao. It reminds me of how they said the exact same thing about Wikileaks from 2016. Russia is the new scapegoat they are gonna use whenever they get in trouble now lol.
Originally posted by Blakemore
Yeah. "dementia joe" who had a very good round in th hall whereas Trump himself had an absolute shit show. Like I said, it's embarrassing.
It's almost like spending a year+ making Joe Biden out to be little more than a dementia-ridden drooling fool backfired on team Trump.
Originally posted by Artol
It’s bizarre to me how these stories of individual voter fraud or ballot stuffing are so popular when there’s little evidence of them occurring. Both parties have much more effective ways to skew the vote in their favor, whether that is gerry-mandering, or the disenfranchisement of certain groups, or just the standard “you have two choices and they are exactly the same”.But I guess the idea that someone in a Democratic headquarter is faking ballots, or the Republicans are registering long dead people to vote for them is much more visceral for people, even if it’s not true.
Maybe certain folk in power should stop claiming the fraud just doesn't exist.
They will not keel over and die if they say it is real but not any big threat.
Voter fraud does exist in some cases, Surt. eg Look what Republicans are doing in California with their illegal ballot harvesting: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f11/t671826.html
Originally posted by Surtur
Maybe certain folk in power should stop claiming the fraud just doesn't exist.They will not keel over and die if they say it is real but not any big threat.
No one says voting fraud literally does not exist. They say it is so exceedingly rare, that it practically does not exist—at least not in a way that effects the outcomes of elections. Perhaps certain folks should stop pretending that voter fraud is rampant to justify voter suppression.