Originally posted by dadudemonhttps://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/let-their-words-do-the-talking/201103/the-seven-stage-hate-model-the-psychopathology-hate?amp#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s
Oh, that's right. I do remember research about this. Exposing people to multiple cultures and countries. But more recent research actually saw a polarizing effect but doing this which contradicted the research from the 90s.I think teaching multiculturalism in schools helps. But aren't they all taught this? I grew up in rich-white-people town after we moved out of the ghetto. It was taught all the time to love and accept all. Despite the fact that it was absurdly white where I grew up. And there are still racists who came out of that school system. More so than I think is normal.
Almost worth it's own thread. I agree with all of it, it's relatively recent. I might add I take psychology with a pinch of salt and struggle despite the techniques it employs to see it as a Science.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/let-their-words-do-the-talking/201103/the-seven-stage-hate-model-the-psychopathology-hate?amp#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24sAlmost worth it's own thread. I agree with all of it, it's relatively recent. I might add I take psychology with a pinch of salt and struggle despite the techniques it employs to see it as a Science.
Wow, that's awesome. So many common threads in those 7 stages between the American Libtards and Conservatards. Right now, the Anti-Trumpers are sliding closer and closer to 7.
The extremist right-wingers have been at 7 for decades.
Originally posted by dadudemonPretty much, the cognitive dissonance and confusion created by the confusitory tactics of people with agenda's has made all this possible. The polarisation used was very clever as was the use of mgtow and 4 chan etc for these groups.to meet and unite. The red pill concept made much of it possible, how much was planned we'll never know. It could just be everything was in place.
Wow, that's awesome. So many common threads in those 7 stages between the American Libtards and Conservatards. Right now, the Anti-Trumpers are sliding closer and closer to 7.The extremist right-wingers have been at 7 for decades.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I don’t think you and DDM agree on what constitutes the extremist right-wingers.
That's correct.
I use the FBI's definition.
Domestic right-wing terrorist groups often adhere to the principles of racial supremacy and embrace antigovernment, antiregulatory beliefs. Generally, extremist right-wing groups engage in activity that is protected by constitutional guarantees of free speech and assembly. Law enforcement becomes involved when the volatile talk of these groups transgresses into unlawful action.On the national level, formal right-wing hate groups, such as the National Alliance, the World Church of the Creator (WCOTC) and the Aryan Nations, represent a continuing terrorist threat. Although efforts have been made by some extremist groups to reduce openly racist rhetoric in order to appeal to a broader segment of the population and to focus increased attention on antigovernment sentiment, racism-based hatred remains an integral component of these groups’ core orientations.
Right-wing groups continue to represent a serious terrorist threat. Two of the seven planned acts of terrorism prevented in 1999 were potentially large-scale, high-casualty attacks being planned by organized right-wing extremist groups.
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/testimony/the-terrorist-threat-confronting-the-united-states
A MGTOW believer is hardly even close to right-wing extremism and it actually has little to do with right-wing politics. It's a relationships cause, not an anti-government cause. It's only the extremist incels in those groups that cause problems beyond "how to approach romantic relationships."
Originally posted by dadudemon
That's correct.I use the FBI's definition.
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/testimony/the-terrorist-threat-confronting-the-united-states
A MGTOW believer is hardly even close to right-wing extremism and it actually has little to do with right-wing politics. It's a relationships cause, not an anti-government cause. It's only the extremist incels in those groups that cause problems beyond "how to approach romantic relationships."
Who the f*ck do you think you are using definitions instead of feelings?
Originally posted by dadudemonAs I'm not bound by the FBI's definition in any sense, I certainly feel that mgtow are recruiting grounds for extremists. I'm not alone in this and even did a thread on this premise. To be honest I even see events like Brexit as polarising and recruiting, particularly on the extreme right fringes.
That's correct.I use the FBI's definition.
https://archives.fbi.gov/archives/news/testimony/the-terrorist-threat-confronting-the-united-states
A MGTOW believer is hardly even close to right-wing extremism and it actually has little to do with right-wing politics. It's a relationships cause, not an anti-government cause. It's only the extremist incels in those groups that cause problems beyond "how to approach romantic relationships."
Originally posted by Putinbot1
As I'm not bound by the FBI's definition in any sense,
I am. This is where my educational background comes from and the framework within which I had to work for almost 10 years.
I am beholden to the definitions set by the Criminologists, Criminal Psychologists, and criminal statisticians that operate within the FBI and to an extent, the DHS.
I also live in the USA where the policies and expertise of these organizations informs legislation and law enforcement best practices, across the board.
Originally posted by dadudemonI personally feel they set the bar too high as to what an extremist is. I'm happier with a more German view as to what constitutes extremism, although perhaps not with the desired punitive responses. Interestingly this link also highlights the variance in outlook of EU states we were discussing elsewhere.
I am. This is where my educational background comes from and the framework within which I had to work for almost 10 years.I am beholden to the definitions set by the Criminologists, Criminal Psychologists, and criminal statisticians that operate within the FBI and to an extent, the DHS.
I also live in the USA where the policies and expertise of these organizations informs legislation and law enforcement best practices, across the board.
https://www.politico.eu/article/germany-faces-struggle-over-racism-law/
Originally posted by SurturI don't directly blame Trump but his rhetoric often seems to attract these sorts of nut jobs... This isn't the first time we've seen this sort of incident from among his base even in recent history... At a certain point basic pattern recognition should kick in.
Oh I know I'm the one who brought up Trump, you know why Rob? Cuz I know how weasels like you operate. We will 100% see someone blame Trump for this. Guaranteed some dumb retard will spew that nonsense.You mistakenly tried to paint this as alt right, but you're forgiven 👆
^This Mike Brown character BINGO'd the hell out of it.
This has a very similar smell to the MAGAbomber, many of this guy's intended targets are people and organizations Trump routinely demonizes in one form or other (eg "enemy of the people!"😉, as POTUS, Trump should rethink his antics and set the example for others. That's part of the job of the POTUS.
"enemy of the people" to describe any mainstream press that takes an adversarial position to Trump and his policies is a perfect example of his autocratic tendencies. As luck would have it he isn't a dictator but it would seem that he wishes he was or at least that is the impression he gives me.
His phony national emergency being another prime example of the sort of thing you would more expect to see in a banana republic.