GOP's anti-Muslim display likening Rep. Omar to a terrorist

Originally posted by Lestov16
A key part of Palestine/Islam's theocratic dogma is it's landownership of Israel and particularly Jerusalem.

I'm hoping if the Palestinians get a worthwhile amount of land where they can feasible turn into a working country and maybe a few tidbits of $$$ thrown in to help them build/-rebuild, getting some farming going etc., the Jerusalem issue might be let go by the majority. Obviously not everyone is going to be happy, but if enough people are, it could maybe work.

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Originally posted by Robtard
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Double penetration?

Mormon's aren't supposed to have such thoughts

Originally posted by cdtm
It's all about association.

Putin posted a really good video on BBC about the "blueprint for world domination", which talks about geopolitics, and how it became a "dirty word" because of it's association with the Nazi's.

The fact is, you're going to find anti-semites mining legitimate talking points for their own ends (As do political opponents), which is where I think this tiptoeing around the line comes from.

Very simple question... Have any of the supposed anti semitic remarks not been specifically about Israel?

Lol democrats are so weak they couldn't even agree on a resolution condemning anti-semitism. They legit resorted to whataboutism:

Originally posted by Surtur
How Democrats turned an internal spat over anti-Semitism into a major diversion

And yes, it will not even be debated that it's whataboutism. It is.

Originally posted by Surtur
And yes, it will not even be debated that it's whataboutism. It is.

this from the forum queen of whataboutism

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
this from the forum queen of whataboutism

The problem is...it's the left that whines like babies over whataboutisms. You simply cannot use them if you're gonna whine over them. Choose kiddo.

So they failed to pass a resolution that actually was target at her and Dems consider this a reprimand?

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
So they failed to pass a resolution that actually was target at her and Dems consider this a reprimand?

Yep they passed the buck. This is the ultimate form of whataboutism.

Notice though that when Omar had that poster made about her they specifically called it Islamaphobia, they didn't just call out all hatred in general. Weird.

“Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel”

Another way of wording this tweet by her is "Israel has everybody fooled and I pray to God everybody see's how evil they are!". Yup, that's surely a specific criticism of a negative policy by the Israeli government.

You’re still trying to force that she was attacking Jews specifically; being an anti Semitic, when she was attacking Israel, which is a country of many faiths btw.

The hypocrisy is amusing:

Person A: Anti-semitism is bad
Person B: All hatred is bad
Leftists: This is okay!

Person A: Black lives matter
Person B: All lives matter
Leftists: This is wrong!

For the record I think anti semitism is bad, those comments just didn't strike me as particularly anti semitic. I was actually expecting something much worse... As there's a lot of actual anti semitism in the Islamic community and among extreme critics of Israel.

If anything the word "hypnotizing" was the most problematic thing she said, and that's still not overtly hateful to me.

People on the left actually do the same thing that you're doing when they portray anyone who refers to George Soros as this nefarious political influence as being anti semitic cause he's a Jew, and there's a long standing anti semitic trope of conspiratorial Jews running Western politics from behind the scenes.

Yet it's perfectly fine to say the same sort of thing about the Koch brothers. I'm actually trying to be fair here, I just found her comments fairly benign.

Originally posted by mike brown
For the record I think anti semitism is bad, those comments just didn't strike me as particularly anti semitic. I was actually expecting something much worse... As there's a lot of actual anti semitism in the Islamic community and among extreme critics of Israel.

If anything the word "hypnotizing" was the most problematic thing she said, and that's still not overtly hateful to me.

People on the left actually do the same thing that you're doing when they portray anyone who refers to George Soros as this nefarious political influence as being anti semitic cause he's a Jew, and there's a long standing anti semitic trope of conspiratorial Jews running Western politics from behind the scenes.

Yet it's perfectly fine to say the same sort of thing about the Koch brothers. I'm actually trying to be fair here, I just found her comments fairly benign.

The difference with the Soros shit is that most of the stuff is said about him specifically. Omar doesn't get specific. She says Israel is hypnotizing the entire world. She invokes stuff about dual loyalties and about people only being allies of Israel cuz of the money.

Now the common defense is "well, some people DO support Israel cuz of the cash they get, it's true!".

Yeah, and some black people love chicken. The left would still cry racism if someone made a comment implying blacks in general love chicken. If you can tell me they wouldn't do that, fine. If you feel they would, I think they have no argument here whatsoever. And I think we both know they would indeed say that is racist.

It doesn't matter that it's directed specifically at Soros.. it still falls in line with a trope.

And she's only criticizing Israel specifically not Jews so the same logic applies. Instead of a specific person it's a specific country and the people who support it.

Plus the dual loyalty thing could apply just as easily to Christian Zionists as it could Jews, and your fried chicken analogy would only be apt if she said "Jews have dual loyalty."

Kind of funny how 70% of Muslims (According to The Atlantic) voted Republican in 2000, yet the numbers switch by 2011.

It's obvious why, with comments like "Islam hates us". I just wonder if this was a "Southern strategy" to purposely throw out the (low turnout) Muslim vote, to inspire more of the base to vote in elections.

Originally posted by mike brown
It doesn't matter that it's directed specifically at Soros.. it still falls in line with a trope.

And she's only criticizing Israel specifically not Jews so the same logic applies. Instead of a specific person it's a specific country and the people who support it.

Plus the dual loyalty thing could apply just as easily to Christian Zionists as it could Jews, and your fried chicken analogy would only be apt if she said "Jews have dual loyalty."

I'm not saying the critiques of Israel or Jews can't be applied to other places, I'm just saying there is a history and a reason people react differently.

And dude see your arguments come off as disingenuous when you say she's going after the country and not jews. She is using anti-semitic tropes to critique Israel lol. One time is a coincidence, multiple times are not.

I just don't see why she can't go after specific policies of Israel. Go after a specific thing, don't say people only support them cuz they pay them or that they hypnotize the country.

And if you're saying she needs to flat out say "jews have dual loyalties" fine, but then the left has GOT to stop crying about dog whistles, cuz these are the definition of dog whistles. It cannot be both ways. The same democrats saying she isn't an anti-semite have cried over Trump "dog whistling". Can you at least acknowledge those Dems are hypocrites?

So is criticizing India mean the critic is anti Hinduism?

Originally posted by Robtard
So is criticizing India mean the critic is anti Hinduism?

Okay so by this response I can only conclude you also agree democrats are to never whine again about "dog whistles" correct?

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm not saying the critiques of Israel or Jews can't be applied to other places, I'm just saying there is a history and a reason people react differently.

And dude see your arguments come off as disingenuous when you say she's going after the country and not jews. She is using anti-semitic tropes to critique Israel lol. One time is a coincidence, multiple times are not.

just don't see why she can't go after specific policies of Israel. Go after a specific thing, don't say people only support them cuz they pay them or that they hypnotize the country.

And if you're saying she needs to flat out say "jews have dual loyalties" fine, but then the left has GOT to stop crying about dog whistles, cuz these are the definition of dog whistles. It cannot be both ways. The same democrats saying she isn't an anti-semite have cried over Trump "dog whistling". Can you at least acknowledge those Dems are hypocrites?

But yes many on the left are hypocrites because they also use this sort of pc tactic to shut down opposition... Though in this case I would have to say the same applies to you.

And I'm not saying dog whistles don't exist either. I'm saying I think the supposed undertone of her comments is being vastly over blown. I'm even willing to admit "hypnotize" was definitely a poor choice of words when speaking about the Jewish state and was the closest example of a dog whistle here.