MCU: Kurse vs. Ultron

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MCU: Kurse vs. Ultron

Round 1: Slugfest

Round 2: Kurse has his grenade

*Final form Vibranium Ultron

Who wins

Kurse

1. Kurse has every advantage, but can he shatter/break/damage Vibranium? I don't think so.

2. Granade Kurse definitely wins.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
1. Kurse has every advantage, but can he shatter/break/damage Vibranium? I don't think so.

2. Granade Kurse definitely wins.

Ultron was significantly damaged by the combined energy beams of a few avengers. Ultron has absolutely no durability feats that suggests Kurse can't damage it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ultron was significantly damaged by the combined energy beams of a few avengers. Ultron has absolutely no durability feats that suggests Kurse can't damage it.

You mean the combined energy attacks of Thor, Vision and IM.... When did Kurse shoot out energy?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
You mean the combined energy attacks of Thor, Vision and IM.... When did Kurse shoot out energy?

It just prevents you from using a no limit fallacy.
Lack of feats or evidence means you can be damaged.

Kurse tears him apart

Originally posted by h1a8
It just prevents you from using a no limit fallacy.
Lack of feats or evidence means you can be damaged.

Kurse doesn't shoot energy blasts boy.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Kurse doesn't shoot energy blasts boy.

Child it seems as if you are retarded.
The example I gave is to prevent you from using a no limits fallacy.

Therefore to claim that Kurse cannot damage Ultron using physical force requires durability feats or some other strong evidence. Lack of evidence = Ultron being damaged physically by Kurse.

Originally posted by h1a8
Child it seems as if you are retarded.
The example I gave is to prevent you from using a no limits fallacy.

Therefore to claim that Kurse cannot damage Ultron using physical force requires durability feats or some other strong evidence. Lack of evidence = Ultron being damaged physically by Kurse.

Vibranium is one of MCU's strongest metal and has never been destroyed on screen. Not even a charged Mjolnir impact could harm it.

Melting=/=breaking.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Vibranium is one of MCU's strongest metal and has never been destroyed on screen. Not even a charged Mjolnir impact could harm it.

Melting=/=breaking.

So I couldn't prevent you from using a no limits fallacy. You were stupid enough to use it anyway. How stupid are you?

The top strongest metals can differ in durability by a 1 ton or million tons. Does mean anything here.

Never being destroyed on screen =/= has infinite durability to anything in the universe. That's a no limits fallacy. Which I was trying to prevent. Vibranium has a limit, just like all fictional metals.

You have to show that vibranium tanked forces above Kurse greatest strength feat. That's how you debate.

Originally posted by h1a8
So I couldn't prevent you from using a no limits fallacy. You were stupid enough to use it anyway. How stupid are you?

The top strongest metals can differ in durability by a 1 ton or million tons. Does mean anything here.

Never being destroyed on screen =/= has infinite durability to anything in the universe. That's a no limits fallacy. Which I was trying to prevent. Vibranium has a limit, just like all fictional metals.

You have to show that vibranium tanked forces above Kurse greatest strength feat. That's how you debate.

Do you even know the meaning of a no limit fallacy? Or did you use it because it sounded cool? If you use terms the same way you use science, then it wouldn't surprise me that it is the case.

I said that Kurse can't destroy Vibranium, not that Vibranium is undestructible.

Kurse has no arguable feat that can support that claim.

Shut up already Josh

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Do you even know the meaning of a [B] no limit fallacy? Or did you use it because it sounded cool? If you use terms the same way you use science, then it wouldn't surprise me that it is the case.

I said that Kurse can't destroy Vibranium, not that Vibranium is undestructible.

Kurse has no arguable feat that can support that claim. [/B]

You are saying that Vibranium is indestructible. Stop lying.
A character (no matter how strong they are) cannot damage vibranium solely because it is one of the strongest metals in the MCU basically means no one can do it, no matter how strong they are.

Your reasoning wasn't based of how strong Kurse actually is and exactly how much force vibranium can take.

Therefore it applies to any character or force.

In a nutshell you never proven why Kurse can't damage it. Why isn't he strong enough? Prove it.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Shut up already Josh

I am debating, something you have no idea how to do, boy!

In other words, stop derailing the thread, jackass.

Originally posted by h1a8
You are saying that Vibranium is indestructible. Stop lying.
A character (no matter how strong they are) cannot damage vibranium solely because it is one of the strongest metals in the MCU basically means no one can do it, no matter how strong they are.

Your reasoning wasn't based of how strong Kurse actually is and exactly how much force vibranium can take.

Therefore it applies to any character or force.

In a nutshell you never proven why Kurse can't damage it. Why isn't he strong enough? Prove it.

Quote me saying that Vibranium is undestructible!

Go on, this time, I will call you a TROLL if you fail to bring forth evidence

Strawmanning is not cool!

Ultrons body was damaged twice. By the energy attack and scarlet witch

So...Kurse can't break vibranium? I mean energy attacks and scarlet witch managed to melt/rip his heart out. But could Kurse and his brute force damage Ultron?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I am debating, something you have no idea how to do, boy!

In other words, stop derailing the thread, jackass.

You dont know how to debate, hence why you lose all your "debates"

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Quote me saying that Vibranium is undestructible!

[B] Go on, this time, I will call you a TROLL if you fail to bring forth evidence

Strawmanning is not cool! [/B]

Your logic implies that Ultron is indestructible. You basically said Kurse cannot damage Ultron without giving durability feats for Ultron and reference Kurse limits to his strength. Basically feats don't matter, Kurse can't damage Ultron. Therefore, Ultron is indestructible.