Jiren vs Moro

who wins

Personally I think Jiren ki sense awareness is amazing and he would detect if Moro trying to absorp his energy immediately, Moro would never get a chance

Jiren one shots

Moro wins. He is a higher level being.

honestly manga did not do MUI Goku and Jiren justice like anime did

I had a whole post typed up for this but I think I deleted it, but anyways, it depends how close Current Moro is to Jiren in terms of sheer power. We know that he was far below MSSJB but far beyond SSJG in his weakest form, then he consumes some of the planet”s energy and grows vastly stronger, though Vegeta still says MSSB is “far beyond [Moro’s] scope” after this (Though he could be prideful, taunting, ignorant, etc). But then Moro consumes the entirety of Goku and Vegeta”s energy and undergoes an enormous increase in power. So at this point I would argue he should be at least on par with current MSSB, and at best solidly above MSSB, but still below the likes of Jiren or Broly in raw power.

That said, I would argue that Jiren would not/could not oneshot Moro with such speed and efficiency that the passive/active drain wouldn”t shift the fight in Moro’s favor. Even at this point, he might be the most dangerous villain so far, combatively.

If this was FP Moro, Jiren wouldn”t stand a chance.

If Jiren can oneshot Moro, and he chooses to, he wins. If he humours Moro for too long he will be drained and die.

I'd err on the side of Jiren oneshotting Moro because of the huge gap there was between him and not just MSSJB, but even Goku and Vegeta's powered up versions of those states.

I think if Jiren knew what kind of threat Moro was from the onset he would choose to simply oneshot him, similar to what he did to that monster the Pride Troopers were fighting right before the ToP.

Well, to be fair it has been a long time since the tournament of power. Goku and Vegeta”s current MSSJB states are likely far more formidable due to their scraps with Jiren and Broly + renewed motivation for training (as if Goku and Vegeta needed any to begin with). I agree that it”s ultimately splitting hairs and Jiren clearly has far more raw power than current Moro, but it”s hard to see Jiren legit oneshotting Moro even if he wanted to. We”ve seen the beatings characters in DB can take, even from more powerful foes.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Well, to be fair it has been a long time since the tournament of power. Goku and Vegeta's current MSSJB states are likely far more formidable due to their scraps with Jiren and Broly + renewed motivation for training (as if Goku and Vegeta needed any to begin with).

And yeah, I certainly don't see Jiren one-shotting current Moro. I'm all for Jiren-wank to a certain extent, but that's a bit much. /shrug

With the way Jiren fights, he'd be drained before he knew what was happening.

👆 At the end of the day, Jiren is still an arrogant asshat.

I mean, even when he had the 'motivation' of his entire universe being erased if he lost during the ToP, Jiren still milked the fight as long as possible... Even though he had the power to effortlessly defeat everyone on the field within the first few seconds of the battle.

But instead of trying to win as efficiently as possible, he did shit like this instead:

The only one capable of defeating Jiren is Jiren.

Now, my question is whether or not this can be taken to the NLF extent. As in, is there a point where the gap between Moro and his foe is so large that they can resist his drain entirely? I certainly wouldn”t think it”s reasonable to say Moro could drain Whis, for example.

I suppose there might be some sort of special technique, and/or ki that makes certain beings immune to Moro's drain. That might explain why he didn't simply insta-drain DaiKaioshin and South Kaioshin, for example.

But as of now, we have no reason to assume that certain beings are simply too powerful for him to drain.