When was Maul's prime?

Started by TheIndyJedi2 pages

When was Maul's prime?

I think most people here believe SOD was Maul's prime. We obviously know it wasn't Rebels, as confirmed by Matt Martin. But couldn't it be argued that Maul declined after TPM since he lost his legs and basically became a mad man for years until he was found by Opress. Therefore this makes me look at TPM where he was duelling Obi Wan and Qui Gon (two of the best Jedi in the order's history) at the same time while doing acrobatic kicks, and all sorts of martial arts moves. There is also Maul duelling Qui Gon while injured on Tatooine, and still gaining the advantage against him.Also Filoni likened TCW Maul to Vader in the sense that he was broken and possibly not as powerful as he once was before. So is it possible that TPM Maul could replicate those feats that he performed against Aayla and Mace to an even greater extent? Could TPM Maul ragdoll Kenobi etc.?

TPM-era Maul also struggled to defeat that other Padawan(Eldra Kaitis.)

Originally posted by Galan007
TPM-era Maul also struggled to defeat that other Padawan(Eldra Kaitis.)

TPM Maul has been kinda meh D Canon wise. Unless he gets something more than it’s weird he goes from that to fighting a Master/Padawan duo.

TCW Maul sure was less effective than TPM Maul. SOD Maul is portrayed as being just as effective if not more than his TPM counterpart. There’s a reason I used SOD Maul against Anakin in the video of them I did.

There’s also the fact that throughout the Clone Wars Maul was deprived of a saber staff.

SOD Maul with a saber staff should be around his TPM self.

In terms of the legs they’re more durable but could have problems with Force lightning.

In Force SOD Maul is clearly > TPM Maul.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
TPM Maul has been kinda meh D Canon wise. Unless he gets something more than it's weird he goes from that to fighting a Master/Padawan duo.
Clearly TPM Kenobi and Qui-Gon just weren't that good.

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TCW Maul sure was less effective than TPM Maul.

Why? Contending with TCW Kenobi is far more impressive then what he did in TPM.

Originally posted by Galan007
TPM-era Maul also struggled to defeat that other Padawan(Eldra Kaitis.)

That was atleast a few years before TPM, which gives Maul more time to grow

Was it set that long before TPM? Didn't know that.

Source?

TPM Maul was his prime if youre looking at it from a potential perspective; SOD was his prime as far as success though

Originally posted by Galan007
Was it set that long before TPM? Didn't know that.

Source?

Nor was there evidence it was right before TPM.

All we know is it was prior to TPM. Hence any comparison of parity to TPM Maul is kinda moot.

Also its not like he lost to that padawan. Anakin struggled against Barriss, Grievous against Ahsoka and Vader against Luke. Padawans can be tough sometimes.

I mean, it certainly didn't read like it was set very long before the events of TPM, given the overall portrayal of Palpatine and Maul, along with the fact that they had already allied themselves with the Trade Federation by the time of this series. /shrug

Also, I didn't say Maul lost to Eldra, but she did give him a very good fight.

^ I know, just pointing out a few facts. Cant call him TPM Maul until that is confirmed as the time frame.

Heck even if its a few months earlier, Maul could have significantly improved in that time, given his age and apprentice status.

Indeed there are a lot of 'could haves' and 'maybes' we could shuffle through here. Just saying that the comics read like they were set shortly before the events of TPM... At least in my opinion. /shrug

Originally posted by Galan007
Indeed there are a lot of 'could haves' and 'maybes' we could shuffle through here. Just saying that the comics read like they were set shortly before the events of TPM... At least in my opinion. /shrug

The crawls even say at times, it grows close for them to enact their revenge. So can't imagine it'd be too far away.

TPM Maul. Of course being in his prime didn't save from getting dabbed on by an angry apprentice.

Originally posted by Zenwolf
The crawls even say at times, it grows close for them to enact their revenge. So can't imagine it'd be too far away.

Yeah but look how much Anankin grew in a few months between AOTC and TCW, or in the few months prior to ROTS.

Given Mauls age and level, he was likely continuously improving up until his bisection.

Also growing closer to the time of TPM or being set shortly before TPM, could still be a couple of years out.

Yeesh. I certainly wouldn't compare Maul's potential for growth to Anakin's...

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeesh. I certainly wouldn't compare Maul's potential for growth to Anakin's...

Why not? As of TPM, while still in his early 20s he was already comparable in power to AOTC Dooku, who was the unparalleled prodigy in the Jedi Order until Anakin came along, and had about seven decades of Jedi training and another decade of training under Sidious.

I'd say Maul was certainly comparable, especially before he was bisected.

Originally posted by Galan007
Yeesh. I certainly wouldn't compare Maul's potential for growth to Anakin's...

Principle is the same. Hes at that point in his training where even a few months can make a big difference. Let alone a couple of years.

Originally posted by Unbowed
Why not? As of TPM, while still in his early 20s he was already comparable in power to AOTC Dooku, who was the unparalleled prodigy in the Jedi Order until Anakin came along, and had about seven decades of Jedi training and another decade of training under Sidious.

I'd say Maul was certainly comparable, especially before he was bisected.

You think Maul's potential was on par with Anakin's? Really?