The One True King: MrMind vs Anvil

OneBigAnvil, vs Mr Mind.

INNNNN THE RED CORNER, FRESH FROM HIS DEBUT, WEIGHING IN AT 120 KHERUBIM POUNDS, IT'S MR MIND WITH HUNTER ZOOM AND MR MAJESTIC WITH CREATION BLADES!!!!

ANNNND IN THE BLUE CORNER, FRESH FROM TAKING HIS MEDS, WEIGHING IN AT 985 GECKS, ITS ONE BIG BRANLOR ANVIL, WITH THOR AND COMPOSITE HULK (NO WB)!!!!!

Full capacity. No CIS. PIS is, always, off.

Fight takes place in Dubai, standard 0.5km between our proud combatants.

1 OP and 2 posts for each candidate

Mr Mind's OP:

My OP
How I will win this battle, by SPEED. Hulk is a grounded brick and Thor has always lack in combat speed. This battle is FULL CAPACITY and CIS OFF. Which means marvel team will not get a chance to react.
Strategy:
Majestic has creation blades here, 2 of them, one for Zoom one for Majestic. They are forged by shards of creation engine that can cut through anything, even invulnerable reality warper like Tao
https://imgur.com/j7dNMrY
Guess what, BELL RING. Zoom (who might be the fastest comic book character) grab one of the sword from Majestic’s hand, proceed to cut one or both of Marvel team’s heads off before they blink. Majestic can do the same only a bit slower but still infinitely faster than team 2.

“But what about Thor’s misc abilities with mjolnir? What about hulk getting stronger as battle goes on? What about their AOE attacks?”
Doesn’t matter, fight ends before it starts, they won’t get a chance to do anything but die

Team 2 speed- Thor’s Speed:
Most of Thor’s best speed feats are potential metaphors, cannot be measured, the closest you have to ftl speed feats for thor will be him bragging his “lightning fast” lol
https://imgur.com/zCuAk7Y
Keep in mind these are thor’s better speed feats
https://imgur.com/TpG0DZz
notice the “lightning” speed description
https://imgur.com/BQtKWtW
Same description some street levelers have
https://imgur.com/a/M1x3anY
https://imgur.com/EEmeLA3

His best speed fts are unclear display and limit. more importantly he has no operational speed feats period.

This is how Thor dodge and block bullets
https://imgur.com/r4RXHkU
https://imgur.com/GZuj2W9

This is how street levelers dodge and block bullets (look at deathstroke and cap, compare to thor, difference in combat speed is slim)
https://imgur.com/ZuufYeb
https://imgur.com/yoz98Na
https://imgur.com/4B0Ip5K

And this is how real speedsters do it
https://imgur.com/b70xLoo

I mean when spiderman is consider to be faster than you, I got sum bad news...
https://imgur.com/4wc1DBm

In the words of Piccolo: Thor, why won’t you DODGE

Click the link and check out countless instances I easily collected of Thor unable to avoid getting hit period. more coming later
https://imgur.com/a/VDK1mxL

Sure lots of you have seen this, Thor had trouble with people way below Majestic and Zoom on regular basis
Gladiator
https://imgur.com/a/X7BFDYL
Angela
https://imgur.com/a/hqpYowl

Didn’t fair better against lower tiers either
White Tiger
https://imgur.com/fsfrO08
Space Knight
https://imgur.com/kBUktEi
Puma
https://imgur.com/mXn46Vy
Venom
https://imgur.com/a/HXLO77x
Daredevil
https://imgur.com/B1qIv7Q
Wolverine, notice Thor said Logan is faster than he is
https://imgur.com/YwQXIiz
Captain America
https://imgur.com/rqmii9v

His slow speed is his base, occasionally he will move faster

The difference this time will be, Thor will not survive this encounter. When his opponent Zoom who punch harder than superman jam a sword that can cut through anything right in his chest. Doing it many times faster than light...

Hulk speed
And do I even have to prove hulk is slow? A grounded brick LMAO you can open any hulk comics, he gets hit in battle ALL THE TIME, too many to posts. here’s he fighting street levelers like black panther, spiderman etc
https://imgur.com/a/YifmGzb

Noticing even WWHulk, combat speed was not that great, wolverine can land blow on him, imagine what the creation blade wielding by Majestic who has the strength rearrange solar system can do to him.
https://imgur.com/gRPuW1J

Now team 1 speed- Majestic
This one’s insane, build a molecular disentangler in nanoseconds
https://imgur.com/kWqA6IC
Majestic fast enough to take off ring from Ion Kyle Rayner
https://imgur.com/a/yHNhR
Nanosecond reaction speed to Spartan’s instant teleportation
https://imgur.com/a/UadGQ
Flies faster than speed of sound and blitze kill hordes of Daemonites
https://imgur.com/a/oijgi
Faster than captain atom who was goin full speed
https://imgur.com/7gp27y1
how fast is captain atom you might ask, he tagged freaking black racer twice!
https://imgur.com/a/eoqARzR
Atom is a casual light speedster
https://imgur.com/9Vk17Ti
https://imgur.com/c7GRcaD

Back to majestic, fast enough to troll the speedster
https://imgur.com/a8Tslyk
This shows great coordination, track projectiles moving at that 6 times speed of light and not being hit by them
https://imgur.com/3QpGLVD
Stopping multiple disasters in the world at once
https://imgur.com/JaU6GoP
Another impressive one, Sees and rewrites billions of photon pulses in Eradicator per second with his eyes beam,
Not only did he see but also manipulate such large amount of information in such short time is absolutely insane.
https://imgur.com/4ydH488
Then he blows up Eradicator in Fortress mode who’s a High Herald as well in KMC tier list.

Travel speed(which don’t matter much in combat)
Travel from earth to past the milky way galaxy in short amount of time
https://imgur.com/a/AKQpN
Travel so fast photon seems stagnant
https://imgur.com/a/mgNhs

You think Majestic is impressive? now ….We are moving on to Hunter Zoom’s speed. Holy shit
The entire flash v2 197 happened in 1 second
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Th...sue-197?id=8997

He’s so fast he appears invisible to The Fastest Man Alive, also Jay Garrick didn’t even see a blur
https://imgur.com/FiUkYm7
Both Wally and Barr has attosecond reaction speed… yet they both are inferior to Zoom shown in many of their encounters!

Remember whatever ridiculous shit The Flashe have done, Zoom is faster

And Zoom isn’t just fast either
How he counter a blitze, letting Wally phase through him
https://imgur.com/njSgHeg
Even surprise attack from Wally, still phase through them
https://imgur.com/KdGHrAl
Blocks all of Wally’s attack with one hand
https://imgur.com/C9784eI
Stomps Bart
https://imgur.com/a/F2ravkf

This is Wally West, someone capable of carry over half a million people in 0.00001 microseconds 35 miles out of a nuclear blast, one or two at a time.
https://imgur.com/a/eWIb51y
I’m sure you have all seen the fan calculation, in this instance,Wally was traveling 13 trillions times speed of light
https://imgur.com/bhihLUl

Now compare to Zoom...

Even after Wally absorb both the speed of Bart and Jay, Zoom is still a BLUR to him. Zoom one punch him from city to snowy mountain, then proceed to kicks the shit out of him with abosolute ease
https://imgur.com/a/kN71H0q

Next issue keep stomping Wally across the world
https://imgur.com/a/N0wggfF

After speed steal, amped Wally has the combine speed of Jay, Jesse, Bart plus himself. He’s finally able to catch up with Zoom. Time stops around Wally, Zoom is still faster but He’s finally able to see Zoom,They were STANDING STILL IN TIME, locked between ticks of a second where they were immortal.

Their fight circled around the earth for dozen of times, not only that they covered EVERY INCH OF THE EARTH in LESS THAN A SECOND. No one can help their fight, even freaking Superman was in STAND STILL
https://imgur.com/a/3Aag0BH

You see Hunter does not want to kill the flash. He would done it many times over if he wanted to. He just want to make Wally a better hero. In that fight he rather sacrifice himself. But CIS is not a factor here, he won’t toy with his opponent. Furthermore Zoom is a villain who’s willing to kill, especially when he doesn’t know Thor and Hulk personally like he does the Flash.

Bran's OP:

Hello, it's me. I am Thor. I am Hulk.

For this I will FIRMLY establish that Thor and Hulk operate at planetary to multiversal levels for this fight. To do this, I will start with Thor:

Thor

Power:

Let's start with an easy one to prove, Thor lifts the planetary sized Midgard Serpent, and overcomes the pressure he's exerting upon the planet, which makes this planetary plus:
https://tinyurl.com/y4zqpwqe

Thor effortlessly throws a planet:
https://postimg.cc/CRbMKk6f
https://postimg.cc/CBrS2Nd9

Destroys an object that dwarfs suns with BRB:
https://tinyurl.com/yxlwkb5o
https://tinyurl.com/y4xgx42n

These three feats put him easily in Majestros range - rearranging the solar system - but I'm not in it to be in his range.

Takes attacks from War Thor
https://tinyurl.com/yy7hfkun
https://tinyurl.com/y5856jfn

War Thor of course had the full power of a dead universe, was going to destroy a fully fledged universe, and was causing multiversal damage felt in other realms:
https://tinyurl.com/y3m9dlcy
https://tinyurl.com/y23kn49k
https://tinyurl.com/yybll2dc
https://tinyurl.com/yyfgvo2o

Supplies 1/4 of the power required to stop the multiverse from collapsing on itself. 1/4 of infinite realities is still multiversal:
https://tinyurl.com/y4tyzysx

One hammer hit is half the power of the big bang. This will be important later (note it kills an omnipotent Ultron with the Odin Force, and one is a multiversal shockwave):
http://i.imgur.com/QR3sIaV.jpg
https://tinyurl.com/yyvfyogp

Damages Seth/Odin
https://tinyurl.com/y3pc34hh

https://tinyurl.com/y4nlr8xu

Seth and Odin of course fought in a fight that was multiversal
https://tinyurl.com/y3txbc5l
https://tinyurl.com/yxumw82j

Destroying Beyonders (multiversal) along with Hyperion (will be important later):
https://tinyurl.com/y4n5uy6c

Damages and withstands attacks from Celestials:
https://tinyurl.com/y4fmb4st

Celestials created a multiverse by force:
https://tinyurl.com/yysgq4oe

Thor kills Sentry:
https://tinyurl.com/yytmmwep

Sentry of course, killed the multiversal Molecule Man effortlessly under the same writer:
https://tinyurl.com/yywflguu

https://tinyurl.com/y58urowj

Hulk

Thor of course, is complete fodder to Hulk. The firmly established multiversal Thor is fodder to Hulk. Think about that and wonder how Zoom and Majestic can possibly win.
https://tinyurl.com/y25u674r

https://tinyurl.com/y2kuawpq

https://tinyurl.com/y44hrvwu

If that's not enough, Hulk can effortlessly crush an enchanted Asgardian Hammer with NO POWERUP! Mjolnir as I showed previously, could withstand putting out 1/4 of multiversal power, and the big bang when 2 of them clang together. Which puts Hulk way over big bang level:
https://tinyurl.com/y4h4dnf5

So now that we established that the multiversal powers of Thor mean nothing to Hulk, we'll move onto some other multiversal characters I mentioned. Beats Sentry:
https://tinyurl.com/y4an6vat

Destroys a device built to withstand the multiversal powers of the Celestials:
https://tinyurl.com/yyhomf5t

If that's not enough, he powers up a device that withstands Exitar who is the most powerful Celestial by far:
http://i.imgur.com/mXouPK1.jpg

Is stronger than Hyperion:
https://tinyurl.com/y4bpj2h3

In addition to being stronger than a character who slagged Beyonders, Hyperion also held 2 universes apart and survived them exploding on him:
https://tinyurl.com/yyfuzbbr

Which shouldn't be a surprise since Hulk destroyed his own universe before:
https://tinyurl.com/y24zwa5a
https://tinyurl.com/y6ntskof
https://tinyurl.com/y3rqt9lu

AN ABSTRACT is draining his power holding back Hulk. Let me explode this scan for emphasis:

THE ABSTRACT was destroying reality/the multiverse, and controlling IG users:
https://tinyurl.com/y46cs8nx

https://tinyurl.com/y3wae7fx

https://tinyurl.com/y4abnktg

A far weaker Hulk walks through reality, realities (everything in the crossroads), and worlds being thrown at him:
http://www.universomarvel.com.aq/hulk/Hulk-vector-2.jpg
https://tinyurl.com/y2gp9ce3
https://tinyurl.com/yxu8956n

Hulk kills a multiversal Dormammu:
https://tinyurl.com/y5da9of5

https://tinyurl.com/y6aoo4qj
https://tinyurl.com/y67vpkae
Speed and Opposition
Both his characters hover around lightspeed, but I will focus on Zoom here:
https://tinyurl.com/y3kgv7v5

https://tinyurl.com/y3xj3mek

http://i43.tinypic.com/2ci7bpl.png

Both my Marvel characters have fought a much faster character in Gladiator. I trust I don't have to show scans of both winning, but I will show something lightspeed can't match.
https://tinyurl.com/y5badvud
https://tinyurl.com/y63gzert

Thor on his own can move faster than light:
https://tinyurl.com/y33fjuet

https://tinyurl.com/y6y4ope7

Thor can even THROW PIE AT LIGHTSPEED, so he isn't limited by a windup
https://imgur.com/a/rgENGOu

Both Thor/Hulk have also reacted to someone who's faster than Northstar - 99.9% lightspeed
https://tinyurl.com/y2xmat5d
https://imgur.com/pxt4fud

https://tinyurl.com/yywwb89k

https://tinyurl.com/y3h4hq3b

If that's not enough proof, Quicksilver outraces radio waves which are lightspeed
https://tinyurl.com/y5mv59nz

Thor DIGS A DITCH AND A TRENCH
https://tinyurl.com/y3x6o646

https://tinyurl.com/y48mewu3

Hulk is a BLUR
https://tinyurl.com/y5cw8xf9

Hulk blitzes 3 people WITH SUPERSPEED
https://tinyurl.com/yytxft34

Which means my multiversal characters can not only react to my opponents, but they are actually much faster too. Majestros has no impressive combat speed as well.

Zoom also hits like a girl, and has never KO'ed anyone besides Damage outside of Flashes.
https://tinyurl.com/y3zaekqm

Speaking of Damage. He catches Zoom:
https://tinyurl.com/y55zalpt

And LB knocks out Zoom with a thrown object which Thor specializes in:
https://tinyurl.com/y52z9n8g
https://tinyurl.com/y2gf3ra8

Next we will move onto Mr Majestic's durability, since Zoom is worthless. We know he's not multiversal, but how tough is he?
He needs prep time to go into the sun:
https://tinyurl.com/yxp5b47t

Thor can fight in the heart of the sun:
http://i.imgur.com/UxGlyKA.jpg
https://tinyurl.com/yxnyul6x

Hulk can STAND UP with an entire sun ON HIS BACK! Also doubles as cutting resistance since something that CARVES atoms barely grazes him
https://tinyurl.com/yy5uc3vv
http://i.imgur.com/Y0qPtcS.jpg

And as for Thor's cutting resistance, he withstands being cut by Twilight
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/47437/1654427-thorvshela13.jpg

Which can warp the universe:
https://foxsuperpowerlist.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/time-manipulation-avengers-v3-3.jpg?w=760&h=1169

http://i.imgur.com/UE0pOC8.jpg

Wolverine's molecular sharp claws can't cut Hulk. Wolverine is also lightspeed in these scans.
http://retro-daze.org/images/postImages/1482898523Hulk181b1.jpg

Basically, when he gives the Creation Blades to Zoom, not only is he too slow to blitz, but even if he could, it's doubtful he can cut my dudes anyway.

But on to the last issue you present that we need to crush; time.

Hulk can punch through pure time:
http://i.imgur.com/DndbyZP.jpg

Hulk punches through time and space to punch Hunter Zolomon in the face:
https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-3c25ff54ad97e025ceddeecd645a10a5.webp
https://tinyurl.com/y6bjgh84

Hulk can't be time stopped:
https://tinyurl.com/yxvy95t6
https://tinyurl.com/yyfkayw2

HULK GOES WHERE HULK WANTS
https://tinyurl.com/y2qltw6t

So, we have firmly established any time manipulation will be meaningless to Hulk, and Hulk would simply punch wherever Zoom is. Thor has time travel as well as time freeze:
https://tinyurl.com/y3pqups8
https://tinyurl.com/y53owwzv

Your ace in the whole is sunk.

Strategy

To borrow from a fellow Hulk fan, all I have to do is clap. Hulk is far above 4 Mjolnirs and he destroys the whole dimension as soon as this fight starts. You aren't fast enough to stop me, and I can counter everything you do. If for whatever reason you survive, I clap again and Thor blasts off multiversal lightning bolts at you:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/1f/5d/8d/1f5d8df2664b4ccc0e53ea74d352ecd3.jpg

It's that simple. I'm faster, stronger, and way too durable to damage. I don't even need to go exotic here to win. GG spite

Post 2- Part 1
Yet after all this wank none of the showings suggest they can survive the initial blitze. How they gonna unleash “multiversal attacks” you claimed before they die? They don’t have Flash’s atto-1×10−18 of a second reaction speed. Zoom is so fast his speed reach close to infinity from the get go.

You have to be absolutely insane to believe Thor and Hulk are multiversal who can punch through time dimension and stop time like Bran suggested. Even the combo of Carver, Rage , Celey on bath salt is not that asinine. This is RW Omniversal Sentry shit

Now I think Bran’s evil plan of wanting words limit rule is pure genius, if I quote all the false he said + debunk on all the scans + presenting my case, I’ll guarantee exceed the words limit by twice. Well guess what he succeeded

I only ask the judges to not look at Bran’s description of the feat which is wildly inaccurate and blow out of proportions. But actually click the link and look at the scan yourself. Nothing he says is what actually happened. The amount of red herring scans spam…instead of explaining the scans in CONTEXT like I did.

ABC LOGIC
abc logic, for Bran it’s abcd logic, A (Hulk) has fought B (random), and B rival with C, and did you know that C has brief interaction with D one time where D has a ambiguous feat that can be interpreted as MULTIVERSAL, HULK MULTIVERSAL Confirmed.

If being objective is not our goal here, I can play the same game
Zoom easily shown superiority to Barry, Barry beaten Anti-Monitor and destroyed Anti Matter canon,
https://imgur.com/rfY7YpL
https://imgur.com/a/AsCeVW7
AM was close to destroy the entire DC pre-crisis infinite universes, He pact the power of postive multiverse and anti-matter multiverse, a megaversal being.

Zoom has knocked out Superman and WW
https://imgur.com/a/EwGlCrb
One has vibrated the omniverse and lifted infinity
https://imgur.com/a/ouhfPAu
The other deflected trillions upon trillions of God shards traveled throughout universe
https://imgur.com/a/NiqMQ
That mean Zoom is centillion 1 x 10^303 light speed omniversal POWA herp derp>>>multiversal Hulk

Majestic was able to cut the hand of freaking Godhood Tao who was a multiversal reality warper.
https://imgur.com/j7dNMrY

How powerful was Tao? Tao had Max Faraday Creation Equation power. Max Faraday with the Creation Equation control the wildstorm omniversal reality
https://imgur.com/qIf3AUl
https://imgur.com/hML2fQw
And created a thousand universes with a single handwave
https://imgur.com/fGZmbW5

Majestic was able to get the better of Captain Atom
choke and throw cap atom with one hand
https://imgur.com/a/C2kgW
https://imgur.com/a/tuuN2

Captain Atom already got the void signature in their encounter, the same Captain Atom that restarted the wildstorm multiverse
https://imgur.com/6Yz4YsH
In the same arc wildstorm confirmed multiverse again
https://imgur.com/26ka4yg

Captain Atom with void power also killed Jenny Quantum who was a Franklin level reality warper. and Majestic did better than Jenny

So in conclusion Captain Atom with Void Power, Tao, or Anti-Monitor> anyone Thor and Hulk ever faced

So even if you wanna play the abc logic wanking game, marvel team is hopelessly outmatched

But See the logical fallacy here? That’s what you been doing

Now back to being objective, I hope you can do the same, though doubt it

Debunk- only got space to pick some and keep it short

THOR DEBUNK

Thor lifts ...Midgard Serpent...which makes this planetary plus

Thor effortlessly throws a planet

Destroys an object that dwarfs suns with BRB

war thor

One hammer hit is half the power of the big bang

These feats are Thunderstrike, Dargo and Jane, nothing to do with Odinson

Thor Damages Odin

Destroying Beyonders with hyperion

Thor fought Celestials

Not to mention they are cosmic jobbers, Susan Storm killed Exitar, took Exitar thousands years power to kill single watcher. Billions of celestials got killed by Godkiller armor etc

Kills sentry

sentry killed multiversal molecule man

Hulk Debunk

thor fodder to hulk

Hulk crush an enchanted Asgardian Hammer

Destroy multiversal device

stronger than Hyperion

Hyperion also held 2 universes apart

powers up a device that withstands Exitar

Hulk destroyed his own universe

go read longshot saves the marvel universe and you’ll find out what actually happened

much faster character in Gladiator

And reacting to Quicksilver is nothing, quicksilver isn’t even close to lightspeed, the slowest flash Jay Garrick is lightspeed. Northstar is around Jay’s level.
Thor’s travel speed don’t matter in fight

thor throws pie at lightspeed

Hulk blitzes

LB knocks out Zoom with a thrown object

Thor can fight in the heart of the sun

Oh god you did not bring up the sun, Mangog who destroyed Asgard including Odin, was killed by sun. Mjolnir was destroyed by sun. New issue of Aaron confirmed Thor cannot stay in Sun for long.

Wolverine is also lightspeed

Basically, when he gives the Creation Blades to Zoom, not only is he too slow to blitz, but even if he could, it's doubtful he can cut my dudes anyway.

I have 30 instances on my computer of Thor getting pierced, I’ll post 9. Thor’s piercing durability is one of the worst.

https://imgur.com/a/YxF6iCc
https://imgur.com/a/Uebff0b
https://imgur.com/l4pbBLc
https://imgur.com/d3Re37r
https://imgur.com/H3aduLQ
https://imgur.com/a/2qSXwTl
https://imgur.com/a/eqAhIxP
https://imgur.com/a/BTJMW9v

Warpath and his shitty little knife can stab through WWHulk, suffice to say Hulk’s piercing durability is terrible
https://imgur.com/a/oUoi8N2
3 more instances
https://imgur.com/a/JwHi0jA

The most dangerous weapon aka creation blades impaled Tao, so he couldn't access his full powers, barely able to speak and stand until swords were removed. Adamantium is a joke compare to the blades
https://imgur.com/a/xTYrl87

any time manipulation will be meaningless to Hulk

Good thing that’s not Zoom’s power, Zoom only manipulate his own time frame

Part 2- Post 2

Hulk Speed
I’m not gonna bother go through hulk history, since I’m not gonna lowball I’ll pick composite hulk strongest form WWHulk, this is Hulk at his peak performance and he’s still slow. hulk was getting hit by every named heroes lol, from class 100 to street levelers, I mean when beast can land hits on you I got some bad news. Hulk had durability to take the damage then, but comparin to who he’s facing now pffft.

WWHulk and Sentry fight going all out didn’t even destroy manhattan. Zoom and Wally’s fight covered every inch of the earth in less than a second. The scale isn’t even in the same ballpark.

Keep in mind all this is in one arc, you can pick any other arcs too there are millions of instances of Hulk getting hit, every fight he’s in he will take hits from opponents.

Even beast was landing hits lmao, so was colossus and emma
https://imgur.com/a/78mmQn3
https://imgur.com/3gjhSon

Freakin firearms by random soldiers were all landing on him
https://imgur.com/a/LW5FkkH

Literally every x-men were landing hits on him, EVERYONE…. Well maybe not Prof x
https://imgur.com/a/IQ88OsI

Trading blows with Ben, that right hook Ben landed was CLEAN
https://imgur.com/a/DjNBbnB
Iron man, notice the middle scan, every sorta blitze would send Hulk flying
https://imgur.com/a/PPst9tl

This one is hilarious, General Ross machine gun hitting him, then his handgun shot off Hulk’s eye lol
https://imgur.com/a/tFUDeC2

X-23 huts him pretty bad
https://imgur.com/a/VobyQgA

Wolverine cuts him again, this is old news, Logan has done it way too many times in history
https://imgur.com/a/jpEdeNg

See his fight with Juggy or She-Hulk, notice Hulk fight is basically taking a hit then throw a punch, he gets punched more than nate diaz lmao
https://imgur.com/a/xHRqjJx

Majestic Strength
He has better quantifiable feats than both Thor and Hulk, in fact it’s not even close
First he pushed earth and star ignot
https://imgur.com/a/4xay7
Then he moved mercury, the moon
https://imgur.com/a/CHVpk
https://imgur.com/a/JJvoF
Finally he rearrange all 9 planets in the solar system “they were successfully moving the 9 planets” Noted gloves were there only to prevent planets from breaking under their own weight
https://imgur.com/a/HTRjJo1
Jupiter is 318 times mass of Earth! Saturn is 95 times mass of earth...

Moved earth back on it’s axis another time
https://imgur.com/a/NZFyC

Crushes pencil to diamonds is cool as hell,
https://imgur.com/a/oDa3P
reminds me of what strange visitor superman did or reeves superman, that’s pre-crisis level shit
https://imgur.com/WjkjyDl

He has strength feats that rival the highest caliber, aka close to Superman

Marvel’s team best quantifiable strength feat is Hulk using aid from a pair of "experimental anti-magnetic, jet-propelled, fortified rocket springs" help launching him in the air to destroy asteroid twice the size of earth. Not even close to the ballpark of moving Jupiter. And that’s Hulk’s best quality his strength getting hopelessly outmatched.

Or better yet, struggling with a mountain lmao in Secret Wars, strongest one there is huh

Majestic energy projection- heat vision
This is absolutely insane, superheat Jupiter
https://imgur.com/a/d5oZk
Turns asteroids to Mars’ new ring
https://imgur.com/a/be7yD
Destroy a Robot that’s immune to conventional attack
https://imgur.com/a/5lyey
https://imgur.com/a/tg6te
Thor reaction to energy projection is bad...Hulk? Lol Hulk just stand there and take it
https://imgur.com/kFd0Wd1

Zoom

You might say if Zoom is so powerful why does he lose? Other than being a villain, his PIS and CIS. He always try to play with his food, he does not want to kill the people he fought most of the time, he wants to make them better (stated too many times)
Blitzes cheetah who’s a light speedster
https://imgur.com/a/Gmg3SSC

Here it is the famous Zoom punches harder than superman, now WW is just comparin fight with Zoom to fight with Superman, and Supes usually pulls his punches with WW, but Zoom wasn’t going all out either so you can estimate both are around the same strength level

Kicks WW’s ass from Paris to Egypt to China to Themyscira, notice talking about wanting WW to be better, him toyin with them and not go for the kill was always his downfall
https://imgur.com/a/JbzOyQV
However PIS and CIS are not factors here

Zoom was not affected by flashpoint because he was taken to 25th century by Thawne, where he remained unaffected by the changes to the timeline. Post flashpoint Zoom is the same character as Pre 52 all his feats count

Blitzing and stomping the entire JLA in less than one panel.
https://imgur.com/a/EwGlCrb

Zoom has gained new power currently speed force, sage force, & strong force.
https://imgur.com/N7vHE5j
https://imgur.com/qPtPXgg
With his new powers he was destroying barry and wally easily in the most recent fight, blitzing them and being faster like always
https://imgur.com/a/sf4mjIy

Let's preface this entire post with what our friend MrMind has said:

"How I will win this battle, by SPEED. Hulk is a grounded brick and Thor has always lack in combat speed. This battle is FULL CAPACITY and CIS OFF. Which means marvel team will not get a chance to react."

Which means he abides by the characters fighting to their absolute limits and with CIS off. We see evidence of this in him using Flash memes of attoseconds, and pretty much every high feat of Flash he could think of at the time of writing, including a fan calculation of a feat that was stated on panel to be short of lightspeed:
http://tinyurl.com/y6ppujmz

You'll notice he cropped this scan out to fool every onlooker. Very sneaky stuff. You can't trust him.

But anyway, the main point is, his own words are a mark of hypocrisy. He argues his characters get access to their full range of powers and feats, yet continuously lowballs my characters for whatever reason. Characters who notably hold back on Earth for fear of killing everyone:
http://tinyurl.com/y4k2rqjf

http://tinyurl.com/yysd2wgl
http://tinyurl.com/y56bq6rx

He argues full capacity, and then promptly seeks to lowball my characters (who notably hold back)? How does this make sense? Practice what you preach good friend, because this is in bad taste. The best example is when he uses Hulk catching a mountain with no rage as a lowball feat, when he himself has agreed to a composite Hulk/full capacity. Lesser Hulks have better feats than that.
http://tinyurl.com/y3m8cxpb
http://tinyurl.com/y3u2zyl6
http://tinyurl.com/y5w64vs7

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ABC Logic

Again, he rears his hypocrisy here. His entire part of Zoom is predicated on Flash's speed. As I've shown in my OP, Zoom has never traveled many times the speed of light. He also cherrypicks a scan out that says he hits as hard as Superman, yet it says he's traveling at lightspeed in the same page. The context of course, is that Zoom not only failed to knock out a blind Wonder Woman - which means every punch he landed was essentially a cheapshot as she had no indication when any punch was coming - but he actually lost to her too. We also see him acting like Flash was hitting Zoom with the mass of a white dwarf star, when that was never stated in the battle. Again, ABC logic. See how fast he shifts into calling me out, and then going into his own ABC logic with zero tonal shift though. His entire argument is based on ABC logic; yet, he has the gull to be a hypocrite.

The most notable example however, is his attosecond scan. Something only applicable to a DIFFERENT Flash that appeared well over a decade later, and that's a case of CAN, not ALL THE TIME.

So far he has essentially admitted that all the low feats of my characters should be thrown out, and all of his feats from other characters shouldn't be used to build a basis. That's not what I'm saying keep in mind, that's straight from the horses mouth. He is simultaneously destroying his own arguments while pretending I should fall under the same guidelines as his belief system.

Not only, but he also admits that Zoom is vastly faster than Mr Majestic

"You think Majestic is impressive? now ….We are moving on to Hunter Zoom’s speed. Holy shit"

Which means all I have to do is cast doubt on Zoom's speed in his own words here to win. These are his words ladies and gentleman. He's made it so easy.

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Speed

As I've shown before, Zoom in the arc he's using hovered around lightspeed. In fact, even in the scans MrMind was using, an "amped" Flash raising his speed to lightspeed was able to see Zoom. Which means he wasn't traveling trillions of times faster than light like my opponent would have you believe.
His own link:
https://imgur.com/a/kN71H0q

A far cry from attoseconds like the Flash meme would have you believe.

100 thousand miles a second is enough to make up the distance between Flash and Zoom. Which means we aren't talking about millions or trillions of times light, we are talking about less than 2 times light at best for Zoom.
http://imgur.com/gallery/FEnuNyA

He disregards proof of me showing Quicksilver is faster than light in his rebuttal with a simple handwave and no proof to the contrary. Yet he makes up proof in the case of Zoom. Thor has better speed feats than this, and has showings where he tagged similar speedy characters.

What he however didn't address in the least, is Gladiator crossing a galaxy in an eyeblink in combat. For the mathheads out there, we'll calculate this feat:
Say 52850 light years in 300 milliseconds, or 1 second we'll say here
That is 4.99988926 × 10^20 m/s
Which is 499.98 quintillion miles per second

To quote your fan calculation of a speed actually stated to be slower than the speed of light (Gladiator has no such limitations):
https://imgur.com/bhihLUl

Gladiator is 199.99 times faster than Flash's fastest calculated feat ever. Thanks for the calculations. 🙂

Here's Thor and Gladiator reacting to him, along with the feat again because you ignored it. This is also impressive because Heimdall is far lower than both Thor/Hulk and he tanked it. Yet we only need lightspeed according to Zoom/Wonder Woman to hit as hard as Superman per his scan. You'll notice a few of these are Thor spinning around quick enough to attack mid blitz too, which makes his speed even greater as he is capable of reacting after being caught unaware:
http://tinyurl.com/y5urom7u
http://tinyurl.com/yy9tqlsv

http://tinyurl.com/yybh9v39
http://tinyurl.com/y6okg8gn

http://i.imgur.com/pqIBLml.jpg

http://tinyurl.com/yynwb4qg

http://tinyurl.com/y53dm5gh
http://tinyurl.com/y4yc53rt

http://tinyurl.com/yyz4jaxt

etc

Along with what else I showed/you arguing full capacity, Thor and Hulk are reacting to anyone here, and this is a composite Hulk as well, not simply "slow" Savage Hulk. You agreed to this, and you saw me using a Hulk with literal superspeed. 😬

He presented a scene where Zoom knocks out Superman and the League numerous times. What he neglected to mention, is that Zoom had the Strength Force and the Sage Force in this scene.
http://imgur.com/a/DBqDJTt

These amps were never agreed upon, and they came out of nowhere. This would be like me using Odinforce feats. Very embarrassing for MrMind to lie to the judges again. I say this not just for the sake of saying it, but I simply do not have the space necessary to cover all his lies and misinterpretations, so unless he provides scans, you have to take everything he says with a grain of salt. This was supposed to be a serious and honest, but most of all fun debate; and he is making a mockery of it all. I am good boy.

Rebutthole

Since I do not have the space to respond to everything, I will only try to answer the points he brought up without handwaving or posting a laughing gif. Remember, he posted this in response to literal scans, and he has a bad track record in 3 posts. 😉

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Tao did not have full access to the Creation Engine at the time (he gets it immediately after), and therefore Max's powers. Here's your scan:
https://imgur.com/a/xTYrl87

Next pages:
http://imgur.com/a/tcR5m33

Tao on his own wasn't impressive durability wise, but why you had to lie is beyond me. You've posted nothing for his powers besides Max Faraday's powers unchecked, so we can promptly ignore him, let alone his durability.

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Captain Atom didn't destroy Wildstorm with the Void Shard. When he fought Majestic, the Void Shard was atomic. When he killed Jenny and had the Void taken away, he was entirely the Void, as we can see plain as day in the gallery.

http://imgur.com/a/7U0i6Gw

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AM is decent, but this was at a severely lesser level than his actual impressive multiversal/universal feats come from. Zoom also isn't actually very durable, nor did Barry ever blitz him to that degree.

Easily under Thor level feat. 🙂

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[list][*]The Midgard Serpent shrinking does not negate the actual feat when it happened.
[*]Thor was swinging the hammer and threw it. Those hammers aren't Mjolnir, nor does Thor have esoteric control over them to that degree.
[*]It literally blows up in the same page lol
[*]All the pages are there reiterating the danger to the realm
[*]All Thor avatars are at or below Thor in power. You're trying to give Zoom Flash's feats, don't be a hypocrite even moreso. The only Thor avatar who varies from Thor is Jane's control of Mjolnir with the Motherstorm and its flight. She did not have this control yet in the scans I showed.
[*]Hurting Odin is all I need to do to contrast it, but if you insist:
http://tinyurl.com/y2yapr3d
[/list]

I'll let this guy explain the Beyonders feat:

Originally posted by MrMind AnonymousPoster
Thor and Hyperion was shattering couple of them to pieces, I don't think they killed any though since beyonders can reform themselves. then both got their shit pushed in by like a horde of Beyonders

But I remember Starbrand killed one beyonder, Abyss and Ex Nihilo killed one also
not to mention the whole race got killed by a detonation that only destroyed hundreds of thousands universes

Before that 3 Ivory Kings were stomping the marvel cosmic beings like they were ants lol , they were the shit for like couple issues then boom there goes the reputation

And
http://tinyurl.com/yy6u8pml

Multiversal level feats all around.

[list][*] The Celestials were never penetrated with simple megatons in that arc, and they were sent directly into the sun indicating that it wasn't as simple as the heroes made it seem. Sue is the literal weakness to Celestials. The One Watcher is an unknown Watcher towering over all others, and he was knocked out beforehand. And the Godkiller is a complete unknown.
Also Arishem and the 4th Host are the most powerful Celestials in existence. You're trying to lowball the entire race with any Celestials, yet you won't accept actual named Celestials as evidence? Laughable.
[*]Void wanting to die does not grant additional firepower to Thor. It was the reason he stayed dead, not got fried in the first place. He was lashing out at Thor right beforehand.
Thor lost the Norn Stones amp, please stop lying.
https://i.imgur.com/sv33eBo.jpg
[*]None of the current hammers have the enchantments of Mjolnir. Nor have they withstood multiversal characters like Hulk swinging them into other multiversal characters. Not only that, but the hammers were greater than any weapons found on Earth, and only Hulk damaged one.
https://imgur.com/LhyNHU9
[*]That device was built to withstand Celestials. Celestials who split the Multiverse. Hulk is above their level of power as evidenced by that.
[*]"A random internet reply" was from the writer and creator of that specific Hyperion who held two universes apart, and he himself admitted that Hulk was stronger. He is not a random observer. Stop lying.
Not to mention Hulk has two fights with Hyperion, and neither have them have him pegged below Hyperion, a noted universe halter and survivor.
http://tinyurl.com/y36mepoj

Even if Hulk is "only" on Hyperion's level, that is a level of strength that is far above Majestic.

And that was absolutely 2 universes. We literally see universes erupt in the scan I posted. Stop handwaving everything away. For further proof that the Earths represented a universe:
http://tinyurl.com/yxt23q7e

Any TRUE DC FAN is immediately aware of how Earths can represent universes.
[*]Balder is a lightspeeder as noted by him effortlessly stopping a lightspeed pie that Thor instantly accelerated. You're arguing about men in tights hopping in and out of time at high speeds, while misinterpreting facts to mean trillions of times lightspeed, and therefore the time hopper gets those feats; don't act incredulous about pie being able to travel at lightspeed. Your incredibility does not mean something doesn't count. Were that so, me simply going *scoff* would silence all your points.
[*]"No PIS and CIS here hello… Zoom has taken Wally’s hardest punches, and Wally’s IMP hit with the force of a freaking white dwarf star"

The hypocrisy and lies on display here. Keep in mind gentlemen and Sin, that he just spent half his post and no doubt hours of his time trying to lowball my characters. Yet he doesn't see fit to count a character who has never knocked out a character outside a Flash related character/never won a fight, and he himself only has a very limited amount of appearances.

It also goes without saying that had Flash hit Zoom with the force of a white dwarf star, you would have posted it. You have not.
[*]And of course your very next point is trying to lowball Thor about being in the sun. I'm sure I'm not the only one entertained by the depths you've gone here, the straws you've grasped at. Thor most recently spent days plummeting into the sun, and went into the sun into the Gorr arc as well, both under Aaron. I have presented actual scans of him being in the sun. You have presented nothing, but "pis and cis"
Naturally not being able to withstand the sun for long =/= not being able to fight in the sun however. You've presented no conflicting evidence, just of an imaginary timeclock. Majestic on the other hand, specifically could not enter the sun without severe prep and altering his body.
[/list]

And just for kicks, here's one more universal feat from Thor:
http://i.imgur.com/K7hrren.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/y48mmt8k

"There are different representations of Demogorge, and I didn't want to negate any of them, especially the God Squad stuff from 'Incredible Hercules.' In 'Thor Annual' #10, though, the Demogorge is this giant, massive thing that's literally eating gods. Half of the story takes place in Demogorge's body; it's this crazy being. That's the Demogorge I want to get back to," Fraction remarked. "Demogorge is the primal Sun God Atum ,as well, and I've decided that's the version of Demogorge that moves around and interacts with characters like Hercules. For this story, Demogorge as a notion or an entity is kind of an Eternity-level cosmic concept of the end of godhood."

http://tinyurl.com/yyabt5oy

And might as well make it one for Hulk too. Hulk beats Zom's full power.
https://imgur.com/a/VrTyflK

Another two universal feats, and I could spend all day here throwing them out, but I want you to comprehend how truly powerful my team is.

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After all that, my plan stands. Hulk destroys the other team immediately and my opponent has trampled all over his own logic in an attempt to belittle my team. He can not keep his story straight of what he wants to do, and can not keep the lies from coming out. It seems all he wanted to do was attempt to lowball these characters while arguing against using this type of logic in this thread - as I believe I've pointed out. I came here for a serious intellectual and fun discussion, and it seems he does not have good intentions.

Laughing in the face of danger does not undo the very serious damage of my characters, nor my speed. Hulk destroys his entire team immediately and he has presented zero evidence that his characters could withstand my universal - multiversal level attacks.

I have around 5000 characters left for a conclusion later on, but I thought I'd end this part by bringing you up to speed with what I deal with here.

First off, I'd like to thank the judges Jlxking, Bentley, and Rage for voting for me. It's much appreciated mates. 👆

Conclusion

So the conclusion here is pretty straight forward. My opponent has repeatedly stepped over his own arguments and sowed the seeds of mistrust, while I however, have shown a face you can trust:

He has shown no actual solid feats of the Creation Blades while misinterpreting the one feat he's brought forth. He tried to build off a being he simply did not have access to the power of (Max Faraday), and as such, he has not delineated where Tao lies. He has demonstrated a no limits fallacy on the blade being able to cut through anything while handwaving away multiple statements and actual damage of something I presented in regards to War Thor for example.

The Creation Blades are a complete unknown as a result. He doubled down on lowballing my characters - something he admitted he doesn't stand by mind you - yet he failed to solidify his winning proof. Even ignoring everything I've conferred while taking into account his lowballing, he has not drawn enough parallels for us to know what happens if he does actually get close. It might as well be a random sword for all he's shown... and all he's shown from Zoom is him cheapshotting Wonder Woman and failing to knock her out.

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He has not shown anything from Zoom to account for far-in-excess-of-lightspeed; a character he admits is much faster than Mr Majestic. I have shown multiple pages from Zoom that shows that he operates at or slightly above lightspeed. He has denounced the use of ABC logic which largely effects almost everything he says, but it seriously hinders his speed. In the meantime, I have shown my characters can:
[list][*]Travel and move faster than his characters per a given speed in the source material
[*] I have shown my characters react to characters on par with Zoom's actual comic speed
[*] I have shown both my characters react to a character faster than Flash's fastest calculated comic feat
[/list]

His plan involves Zoom taking the sword out of Majestic's hand, and traveling the length of the battlefield and decapitating my characters before they can flinch. All I'm doing is clapping initially. With a deficient in speed feats, I think we can decide what's more likely.

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He has not actually countered the power I've established my characters possess. Sure, he's scoffed and laughed at my points, but that does not make the bogeyman go away. The one he seemed most focused on was the Midgard Serpent, but everything else fell to the wayside to him. He wasted precious characters on a mere planetary feat while he let multiversal feats slip through his grasp. I however, focused on the important parts while fully aware of my character limits here. I wish we would have had another 10k characters so I could fully dissect everything he said, but I focused on what's important - Multiversal feats are apparently not to him.

His only counter to something as simple as two Mjolnir's smashing together is calling them different Thors - using the literal powers of Thor - yet he thinks it's perfectly reasonable to get all of Flashes feats?

In his lack of effort he has allowed me to build a reasonable comparison towards Hulk's fists/claps and Mjolnirs bashing together. Something disastrous for anyone on the planet/universe it's directed at. This is just one of the things his lackadaisical effort has afforded me. In summation, he has let a lot of things slip through the cracks that put my characters far above his, and he's provided no counter to the feats, nor a defense with his characters besides "They're really fast".

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The last part will be to highlight the deceptive nature on display here.

He makes a large point shaming the use of ABC logic. Then he displays an example of ABC logic he thinks will help him and be disastrous towards my case. The issue of course, is that he acts like this is the first and only time he demonstrates this logic. As you can clearly see in his points on the issue at hand, that he does not like ABC logic. Yet, almost everything he posted has been ABC logic.

He has advocated multiple times for full capacity, no low feats, and no CIS, yet he clearly goes against this in regards to my characters. Again, following his logic, it would stand to reason none of this counts. He's trampling on his own examples with vivid descriptions and reasons. Literally arguing against himself with potential points an opponent would bring up.

He has lied many times over the course of this BZ. More than I can point out for that matter. He has made it so that his word can't be believed without an explicit scan detailing his words - which he has not provided in many of his claims. That is up to you judges to decide what you should account for.

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Now I know it's a lot to take that Hulk/Thor beat this team, and you may not have thought they had a chance before hand, but put aside your biases and see the missteps of my opponent have allowed my characters to flourish. This is not about the characters, this is about an impious use of good characters, and questionable logic implementation.

Our Lord accepts repentance, and he will accept you by doing the right thing.

This is a really good post. You guys are welcome for having witnessed it.

Before I start my final posts I want to thank the people who agreed to judge and host. Also I want to point out for a lot of my imgur may contain multiple images in a single link. So please scroll through them all
So after 30k characters and endless wankage from Bran, nothing has changed. My initial plan still works.
After basket of evidences shown by me of Thor and Hulk getting pierced by people much slower than Zoom and Majestic.
They are not countering the initial blitz, no matter how many 360 flip multiversal jujitsu mental gymnastic Bran’s trying to pull.
I’m not lowballing and applying abc logic. I only mirror you for lulz. After seeing your ridiculous OP that makes my eyes bleed, I realize who I am dealing with and what I’m getting myself into, so I’m just fighting fire with fire.

You have thrown all the rational debates out of the window at the very beginning. It’s actually quite entertaining seeing you get so rustled when I use your own tactic against you. Remember you drew the first piss

short of lightspeed

Hulk catching a mountain is not a lowball feat, that’s his higher than average portrayal. Everyone should know this. Hulk does not operate at this multiversal planets busting level you claim to be.
You see, Bran find the biggest outliers of Hulk and Thor in their more than 50 years of appearances. Then misinterpret those feats and blow it out of proportion. It’s like saying Superman can beat universal abstracts because he vibrated the omniverse, lifted infinity and eternity. We know what the standard level of these characters operate at.
Zoom and Majestic have only 1/100 appearances altogether compare to Hulk and Thor. Taking out the extreme outliers is what we do when we debate. Of course the uninformed may ask why do I show Hulk and Thor getting tagged and hurt by metas and streets? Because that happens on regular basis, anyone who read Thor and Hulk should know this. These are not low feats. You think WWHulk getting hit constantly are low feats? Does the term grounded brick lost it’s meaning?
WW stated himself Zoom hits harder than Superman, not my personal opinion, on panel fact.

Flash was hitting Zoom with the mass of a white dwarf star

https://imgur.com/XndZLzU
It’s worth noting the entire fight happened in a picosecond.
https://imgur.com/nmPXBhh

Hunter is faster than both Thawne and Wally
Hunter killed Wally’s wife unborn babies, Wally was going all out, and Hunter was tanking Wally’s hardest punches with ease.

applicable to a DIFFERENT Flash that appeared well over a decade later

When Hunter was owning Wally and Barry (who both possess attosecond reaction) that means Hunter is faster than attosecond as well. Even kindergarten kids can comprehend that. Decade later? Lol same Hunter was owning Barry and Wally last year.

that's a case of CAN, not ALL THE TIME.

In the instance that you mentioned, Zoom was able to completely humiliate amped Wally. Not only that, during the MIDDLE of their fight, Zoom is fast enough to go thousands miles back to Keystone city, looked through Linda’s medical records and killed her unborned twins, without Wally noticing he was gone.
https://imgur.com/a/X3Sj53F
He has blitzed Bart Allen effortlessly.
https://imgur.com/a/Q2tWEL4
During that time Bart absorbed the entire speed force. The totality of universal speed channel through one person. He was “not only the fastest man alive, but the fastest man who ever was alive.” Someone who’s capable of blitzing sbp
https://imgur.com/7Qr9qXQ
https://imgur.com/vFyb4X6
https://imgur.com/e65kYRB
https://imgur.com/a/eq1FW

Zoom stopped Time. “We are locked between the ticks of a second”
When you can stop time, you can go as far as you like in zero seconds. Your speed is essentially infinite.
He sees two dumb statues that are Hulk and Thor. He does whatever he wants with them.
https://imgur.com/a/bPGdrC1

So you can cling on to whatever vague narration and think it’s only lightspeed all you want.
When reality is, Wally with speed of all the speedsters fighting at MXIMUM CAPACITY was only able to barely match Zoom. Wally and Bart both have feats many times faster than light.
Bran still can’t distinguish between travel speed and combat speed. Gladiator is fast when he enters hyperspace for TRAVEL and slows in combat. Though fighting gladiator is nothing impressive
Vs Gambit
https://imgur.com/a/2we3igZ
vs deathbird
https://imgur.com/Lm7W9jz
vs Colossus
https://imgur.com/hNn1yKt
vs Cannonball
https://imgur.com/a/vRtV5tX
I guess they all hit many times faster than light eh? Ffs
Regarding taggin speedsters, that shit is nothing impressive consider how slow marvel speedsters are. Wolverine, Hercules, Spiderman, Black Panther has all done it.

Very embarrassing for MrMind to lie to the judges

you have to take everything he says with a grain of salt. he is making a mockery of it all. I am good boy.

This is rich coming from you, multiversal Hulk and Thor.
I don’t have enough space for rebuttal, I’ll address a few.
1. A Helicarrier smash has turned Void back to Bob.
2. Since you wanna use writer’s internet reply so bad, this is a nice one for you

3. He absolutely did not push two universes apart. Imagine me extend my arms with two balloons (earths), there are two cars (universes) coming from the opposite side and they hit and pop the balloons. The planet was destroyed. Hyperion failed to push the two earths/universes apart, nothing more.
4. Hype and Thor fought the beyonders and fail to kill a single one before both get demolished. The fight happened in a erased timeline mind you.

I could spend all day here throwing them out,

Hulk walks through reality, realities and worlds being thrown at him

Alright I'm just gonna post this one directly as well, as it's long overdue.

This wasn't taken with much of a serious intention obviously, but I'm going to give a semi serious answer.

The Thulk amalgam cannot deal with that level of speed. At least that's what I thought. But then Bran posted this:

And everything became a little less clear.

Overall though, in a tough battle, I think it's clear that the Thulk amalgam would be easily sliced to pieces by an absurdly broken amalgam pick from Mr. Mind.

There was really no way around it. I did like that Midgard Serpent feat though. I recommend it gets posted as much as often. And whoever does it, that's gonna work out real good for them.

Congratulations Mr. Mind on a well argued battle.

My vote goes for Bran.

Match is a tie. GGs both of you.

Originally posted by Bentley
Match is a tie.

If it is a tie...then xJLXKing has the decider.

My apologies OBA and MM for being late to this decision. I'd like to thank all who chosen me as a judge (and now are regretting it)
I want to say that in the beginning, I was somewhat discouraged to make a decision on this BZ. Both members somewhat accused a large portion of posted scans by opposing member as being misinterpreted. I kinda took it upon myself to investigate certain accusations and i re-read some old issues

With that said, I think based on the opening statements, MrMind(Hence forth will be called MM) established to me that his character with the Creation Blades, speed of HunterZoom, and strength of Mr. Majestic can very likely stab or cleave OBA's character before he can react. I do believe based on his statements and high end scans, it is very likely possible.
OBM's opening statement was questionable. It was not convincing enough; Feats were used that were shared or did not indirectly argue against what MM's opening post established. Needless to say, if we take the scans from OBA's, to me, it only established that if MM"s character does get it, it can be serious.

Past the opening post, I do think MM made a better argument on debunking various feats and further established his narrative. Needless to say, both sides went through many efforts to low balls each other. I give credit to OBM for establishing the narrative for high end feats being used by MM.

My decision is that Mr.Mind wins and Carver loses

Congrats to MrMind!

Congratulations to Mr Mind on his well deserved victory. To think some idiot would vote against him.

Very good, close and clean match. I guess the better gender neutral human won this time.

Also Dambo with the shambo judge vote. Racist.