Sorry DDM, I didn't expect most neutrals on the forum to read what I posted and agree. That was the cherry on top. Your pseudo Science took a battering, hell even the youtuber Sargon is down with me, I admit a minnow next to the likes of Ventner but still funny.
My advice choose your terminology better.
The funniest thing is DDM is trying to argue behavioural studies against biology. I am amused he still can't see how stupid he looks to everyone but his friends who don't understand having never got an education themselves.
It was like when he thought Deontay Wilder had the main heavyweight title and I explained to him that Anthony Joshua had the prestigious title and the lineal champ was Tyson Fury.He gets lost sometimes round facts.
I don't suppose he even knows who Craig Ventner is, or why his opinion and statement at the Whitehouse backed by evidence from the human genome project is so important.
Originally posted by SamZED
Can somebody dumb this down for a non-native speaker?
How can race be a social construct when there are visible physiological traits to each individual race? Or are we talking about persived differences in behaivour of different races?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes.Humans are racist.
That's the crux of it. It boils down to, "If this person looks different than I do, I am afraid of that person."
Originally posted by Putinbot1
Basically percentages of shared genes. Behaviour is always a social construct. Kids have behaved like Wolves when raised by them.
Originally posted by Bentleysometimes it's instinctual, or responsive, however cognition allows instinct to be over ridden mostly. So you can learn behaviour that overrides programming mostly. Should have qualified that better. even to the point of behaving at least superficially like another animal.
Behaviour is not always a social construct 😬
Originally posted by Putinbot1
sometimes it's instinctual, or responsive, however cognition allows instinct to be over ridden mostly. So you can learn behaviour that overrides programming mostly. Should have qualified that better. even to the point of behaving at least superficially like another animal.
This superficial programming can sometimes be reversed. Like the kid in Russia who behaved likev dog and was part of the pack but now as an adult acts like a human again.
Sure. But saying that any kind of post-instinctual post-reactive conditioning immediately becomes a social construct only makes the term "social construct" worthless. Just call it learned behaviour and get rid of the "social" misnomer.
Under that definition domestication is social conditioning and taming would be social conditioning too but they are very different processes that shouldn't be argued together.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
sometimes it's instinctual, or responsive, however cognition allows instinct to be over ridden mostly. So you can learn behaviour that overrides programming mostly. Should have qualified that better. even to the point of behaving at least superficially like another animal.
This superficial programming can sometimes be reversed. Like the kid in Russia who behaved likev dog and was part of the pack but now as an adult acts like a human again.
The definition seems a bit broad. Of course you can override behavior thru sufficient programming. Even basic biological behaviors (fear, anger, need to procreate) given enough conditioning can be overriden or at the very least suppressed.
Didn't really follow the conversation from the beginning so I'm not really sure what you're getting at here. 😛
Originally posted by NibedicusIt's actually a sidebar to the convo and it's pretty much what you state, if a negative response to pheotypical differences is instinctual, cognition should overcome this with education.
The definition seems a bit broad. Of course you can override behavior thru sufficient programming. Even basic biological behaviors (fear, anger, need to procreate) given enough conditioning can be overriden or at the very least suppressed.Didn't really follow the conversation from the beginning so I'm not really sure what you're getting at here. 😛