Originally posted by Senor Cage
Tim, easily.
Savage with prep has taken on teams stacked with Herald level characters
JSA (Alan Scot, Dr Fate, Starman, powergirl etc)
JLA (Superman, MMH, Firrstorm, John Stewart, Wonder Woman)
JLT ( The Ray, MMH, Truumph, L-Ron in body of Despero)
Remind ne of the last team Tim took on that had heralds like these and was a comletitive threat solely due to prep?
Originally posted by beatboks
Savage with prep has taken on teams stacked with Herald level charactersJSA (Alan Scot, Dr Fate, Starman, powergirl etc)
JLA (Superman, MMH, Firrstorm, John Stewart, Wonder Woman)
JLT ( The Ray, MMH, Truumph, L-Ron in body of Despero)Remind ne of the last team Tim took on that had heralds like these and was a comletitive threat solely due to prep?
Batman and Superman. Not only that, but Tim is a scientific genius, who exceeds Batman himself (as stated by him). With prep, Tim was also able to outwit Mr. Oz and overcome his prisons (twice), and this is a guy who temporarily took away Mr. Mxy's powers.
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Plus, current Vandal never took down any teams. He was killed by Lex Luthor, recently.
Rebirth makes post COIE continuity canon again so how can that be?? Savage took on those teams post COIE.
Superman + Batman </= Superman + MMH +John Stewart+ Firestorm+ Wonder Woman. Still waiting on the feat where Tim uses prep to take on 4 or 5 herald level characters. Oh and scientific genius asside Savage is the better tactical genius AND more importantly the better psychological manipulator. He has after all manipulated the likes of Wally West, Raymond Tirrel, the JSA, JLTF to do what he wanted and put his plans in motion. When battling Savage you can never really be surr your not actually unwittingly working for him
Originally posted by beatboks
Rebirth makes post COIE continuity canon again so how can that be?? Savage took on those teams post COIE.Superman + Batman </= Superman + MMH +John Stewart+ Firestorm+ Wonder Woman. Still waiting on the feat where Tim uses prep to take on 4 or 5 herald level characters. Oh and scientific genius asside Savage is the better tactical genius AND more importantly the better psychological manipulator. He has after all manipulated the likes of Wally West, Raymond Tirrel, the JSA, JLTF to do what he wanted and put his plans in motion. When battling Savage you can never really be surr your not actually unwittingly working for him
Rebirth doesn't make everything canon again.
Plus, Tim is much more tech savy than either Bruce or Savage. Give him enough prep, and he'll outsmart Savage.
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Rebirth doesn't make everything canon again.
DC Rebirth is a 2016 relaunch by American comic book publisher DC Comics of its entire line of ongoing monthly superhero comic book titles. Using the end of The New 52 initiative in May 2016 as its launching point, DC Rebirth restored the DC Universe to a form much like that prior to the "Flashpoint" storyline while still incorporating numerous elements of The New 52, including its continuity.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Rebirth
Rebirth, both written by Geoff Johns and focusing on returning their characters to an earlier status quo while updating the premises for new audiences. The initiative is intended to synchronize and harmonize the Post-Flashpoint continuity and the Post-Crisis continuity
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/DC_Rebirth
The promise of DC Rebirth is a return to the long and rich history of DC Comics.
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Funny hiw every site onnthe internet and every interview with any DC creative team says otherwise
Originally posted by Senor Cage
.Plus, Tim is much more tech savy than either Bruce or Savage. Give him enough prep, and he'll outsmart Savage.
Which is meaningless because tech doesnt make a prep war success. Superior tacticians win with prep. Vril Dox II has defeated his father Brainiac and Starro who are both his tech superiors because hebis better at psychological manipulation and using hus adversaries motivations against them.
Also, one-shotting Doomsday>>>>Taking on a group of herald level beings.
DD isnt above Despero who was on one of those teams. Savage maniulated those teams to beat themselves.
Originally posted by beatboks
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Rebirthhttps://dc.fandom.com/wiki/DC_Rebirth
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.comicbookherald.com/reading-dc-comics/dc-rebirth-reading-order/amp/
Funny hiw every site onnthe internet and every interview with any DC creative team says otherwise
Which is meaningless because tech doesnt make a prep war success. Superior tacticians win with prep. Vril Dox II has defeated his father Brainiac and Starro who are both his tech superiors because hebis better at psychological manipulation and using hus adversaries motivations against them.
DD isnt above Despero who was on one of those teams. Savage maniulated those teams to beat themselves.
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Originally posted by beatboks
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DC_Rebirthhttps://dc.fandom.com/wiki/DC_Rebirth
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.comicbookherald.com/reading-dc-comics/dc-rebirth-reading-order/amp/
Funny hiw every site onnthe internet and every interview with any DC creative team says otherwise
Which is meaningless because tech doesnt make a prep war success. Superior tacticians win with prep. Vril Dox II has defeated his father Brainiac and Starro who are both his tech superiors because hebis better at psychological manipulation and using hus adversaries motivations against them.
DD isnt above Despero who was on one of those teams. Savage maniulated those teams to beat themselves.
Yet, Snyder changed Savage's history, so post Rebirth he has never fought any teams.
Despero above Doomsday? Despero just lost to friggen Donna Troy. Try again.
Doomsday is a MUCH bigger threat than Despero. Despero's latest feats show this.