Originally posted by cdtmYes, the Japanese are dumb enough to believe that being old makes you wise and worth obeying unconditionally.
Isn't it all about the seniority, or something?I remember reading something about a very popular, very successful wrestler who basically had to shine the shoes of his nobody elders, all because of the age and seniority differences.
Originally posted by The Biggest DogThis forum has a few people who are probably Incels, yes mate. You've come across the most suspected a few times, like the Incel stereotype, they are angry. ,) 👆
I think 9 out of 10 times people on an incel murder spree end up dead after making a futile and evil gesture. Imagine how there mother, father and siblings get treated too.Does this forum have any obvious Incels who could add input to this thread?
Originally posted by Putinbot1
This forum has a few people who are probably Incels, yes mate. You've come across the most suspected a few times, like the Incel stereotype, they are angry. ,) 👆
I'm calling you out on this one, Putinbot.
You paint everyone with the same brush when it comes to incels vs a virgin guy not moved by peer pressure.
If we're defining incel in the loosest terms as someone who wants a relationship but can't have it, then you can consider me one.
I am a virgin, and am very open about it when asked. I do not see any shame in telling people that I've never dated a girl at age 20. Hell, in high-school the female dean of students once roasted me in front of my mates (because I didn't go to senior prom): "Kurk is going to be the 40 year old virgin".
I'll admit it was slightly embarrassing coming from the dean, but for no longer than a minute.
Being a virgin doesn't bother me. Occasionally I'll wish that I had a confidante to talk to, but nothing more (except acquiring an apprentice).
My point of this thread is to highlight how the idea of a violent incel is unique solely to contemporary Western social values/culture, and that people like you actually make this problem worse by indirectly mocking all virgin men.
I will occasionally make misogynist statements, sometimes to troll, other times raising genuine concerns (like #metoo being weaponized), but never once have I blamed women for my problems.
There are plenty of actual misogynists who partake in MGTOW, many of them being divorced men (so not incels). True, I don't recall any having shot up women or minority groups in retaliation, but I'd consider them to be much more of a threat with their hateful views than a "moderate incel" (lol at using that term).
I really don't think the issue of violent incels (or mass shooters in general) exists in collectivist societies like Japan because acquiring relationships for personal gain (or simply personal wants in general) are not prioritized like they are here in the USA's individualist culture.
In collectivist societies, success is not defined by individual gain. Being a productive citizen and contributing to society is (at least in Japan) of utmost priority. Hence, marriage and getting "your d1ck wet" is not important in the grand scheme of things .
The idea of success in the individualist Western society seems to be dominated by shallow pursuits of monetary gain for the sake of competing amongst others. Similarly, ideal relationships are portrayed as those where the guy gets the trophy wife ASAP rather than meeting an ideal partner to match personality for life. Those who do not accomplish this are seen as losers, hence triggering the incels.
Again, not an issue in collectivist societies.
This guy, in my eyes, is far more of an asset, as an incel school administrator/superintendent, in society than some 30 year-old working menial jobs to get by, but gets mad pu$$y.
In Western cultures, the question asked by everyone is "What can society do for me?" whereas in Japan and other collectivist societies the question is "What can I do for society?"
That is the root problem of incels. Not a simple lack of sex.
So what are you doing to solve the problem?
Me, I talk to those to I see as being at risk for misogyny. Naturally, my engineering school has quite a few of high-functioning autists who can come off as angry. I speak to them about coursework and try to get on a good basis with them so 1.) They spare me in a school shooting, but 2.) to not leave them isolated and remain at risk.
Japanese people have access to the internet. Nearly half the population are incels, and have certainly been exposed to incel ideology, but don't adapt it as it doesn't fit in with their collectivist societal views.
This is a cultural problem plain and simple.
Incelism spreading is inevitable with the emancipation of women and them entering the workforce, single motherhood being accepted, and the state offering support for single parents. This is not excusing the former because of the latter. Women are hypergamous, that's just how it works, and they no longer need the safety of a marriage to procreate and have a decent life. It's a good check to step up your game.
Unfortunately, most dudes need to lower their standards or step up their intrinsic value. Guys also need to understand that nobody except your mother will love you unconditionally. Trying to find that type of love in a woman is toxic. It's just not how things work; this isn't a Disney movie. Only women and children are loved unconditionally for who they are, rather than what they bring to the table. From an evolutionary standpoint, a woman is far more valuable to the species than a man; men are disposable. To not be disposable, stop being a whiny c*nt, and do something meaningful.
The competition is so f*cking low at this point too. A large swath of the male population has been feminized into believing idiocy and obesity is a real epidemic. Lift weights, get a decent paying job, learn some PUA, and you could bang chicks all day/night.
Imagine competing against dudes in the 50s? Guys were Alpha AF, slim, literally war veterans, and if they were middle class, dapper AF. Walking around campus, and the state of the average male is in sad disarray.
Also, if you're an average dude, stay off SM or dating apps. 90% of the women on there compete for 10% of the guys. Girls who are like a 6 at most, think they're an 8 because they get flooded with attention. Easy to approach and score with in real life, but don't bother online. Tinder seriously warps the mentality of some chicks, particularly mediocre female. I'm not sure why. This is all anecdotal, but I've noticed that hotter girls are more down to earth on SM. Once you step up your game, Tinder is a vending machine of vagina.
For all the hate it gets, I'd much rather dudes go the redpill route than Incelism. The latter just isn't healthy while the former is about owning up to your flaws and self-improving (Lots of angry individuals who give a bad name but that's just how large, decentralized ideas work). After the initial anger phase, every dude I've pointed to redpill in the last 2 years has significantly improved his standard of living, the amount of girls they get, and overall quality of life. You can probably condense redpill into a male sexual mating strategy book that focuses on increasing the body/mind/soul wellness in a PC-less way that doesn't try to account for any particular groups feelings.
Being an Incel seems like such an easy problem to solve in 2019. Entire swaths of losers out there. Lift, learn some culture, practice meditation and mindfulness to control your emotions, find some meaningful hobbies like volunteering, or rock-climbing to make friends/companions etc. and within a year, you'll be surprised by the attention you'll be getting.
I thank Jesus I never got addicted to porn or video games for long periods of time.