Ok, he was better than Barriss but she had spent 1 year in prison so she was out of shape and when she used the force he was at her mercy.
Rewatch that scene. He wasn't "at her mercy" when she used the Force against him, she was still on the ground struggling to regain her feet after his Force push against her. And even though she Force pushed him after he Force pushed her, he still recovered quicker. She was still on the ground panting even after her Force push. He also completely no-diffed her when she had a lightsaber and he was unarmed. A year of prison rust isn't enough to justify that level of difference in ability, imo. He is just straight up superior to Barriss.
He also didn’t do that well against Tensu Run despite being 3v1. Not only was Tensu able to block all his attacks, he also slashed him, albeit it was only a superficial cut. Anyway, only Vader’s intervention stopped the fight. This is the same Tensu who was wounded by the 5th Bro a couple of issues before that.
Tensu landed a kick on the Grand Inquisitor, not a slash. It's true that Tensu Run was doing well for himself in a 3v1, but Tensu Run is also propped up as a legendary generational talent. He gets some heavy glazing from both the other Jedi and from Vader and the Inquisitors. Besides which, his fight against the Grand Inquisitor is entirely inconclusive, since Vader stepped in and ended it. There was next to nothing to see aside from Tensu's kick, and several panels of Tensu and the Grand Inquisitor talking without much action really happening. One kick isn't really enough for me to consider Tensu Run above the Grand Inquisitor.
although it should be noted Kanan thought having Luminara help them could be crucial in defeating the GI, implying she may be stronger than him or on his level
Kanan didn't even know the Grand Inquisitor existed when he set out to find Luminara, so I don't know where you're getting the idea that he thought Luminara's help would be crucial in defeating the GI. Kanan only met the Inquisitor after he discovered Luminara's corpse. The reason he sought out Luminara was because Kanan wasn't confident in his ability to teach Ezra, since he hadn't finished his own training, not because he thought she could beat the Inquisitor.
Tensu seemed pretty legit, but he's hard to gauge. He absolutely clowned the Fifth Brother and definitely held his own against 3 Inquisitors at the same time. Qui-Gon also seemed impressed by him as a Padawan.
Only thing definitive about him is that he was weaker than Vader (as was pretty much everyone else.)
Slightly off-topic, but for some reason I really liked Tensu Run as a character. Maybe it's his ambiguous, hope-inducing aura(dude was basically heralded as the second coming.) Maybe it's his criminally under-explored backstory(I want to know how he survived Order 66 and attained "legend" status so quickly afterward.) Maybe it's his tragic/abrupt death just before establishing a proper NJO and potentially overthrowing the Empire in its infancy(Vader made it clear that Tensu WAS that much of a threat... Basically the "Luke before Luke".) Etc.
Dunno why, but I'd just like to see more of his story fleshed-out in the future.
Originally posted by Eli VantoYep. Qui-Gon was impressed by the mind-whammy Tensu used to compel multiple attackers to just... Fall asleep:
Qui-Gon also seemed impressed by him as a Padawan.
Originally posted by Eli Vanto
Tensu seemed pretty legit, but he's hard to gauge. He absolutely clowned the Fifth Brother and definitely held his own against 3 Inquisitors at the same time. Qui-Gon also seemed impressed by him as a Padawan.Only thing definitive about him is that he was weaker than Vader (as was pretty much everyone else.)
Yeah, I think the real question with Tensu Run is just how high his upper limit is. We had him for such a brief time period that it's hard to really gauge exactly how high ranking he would be. But at the very least, his performance against the Inquisitors puts him above the likes of Cal or Cere from Battle Scars, or Kanan from Season 2 of Rebels. Him handling the Grand Inquisitor, Ninth Sister, and Seventh Sister simultaneously should put him above Ahsoka (who only handled the Seventh Sister and Fifth Brother at once), but Ahsoka's performance against Vader is obviously far more impressive than Tensu Run's.
That contradiction Tensu's better performance against the Inquisitors and Ahsoka's better performance against Vader is a little hard to square. But it could be handwaved by pointing out Ahsoka is familiar with Anakin's fighting style (which in Canon seems to be more similar to Vader's than it was in Legends), and of course Vader just never really dueled Tensu, he just used the Force. Alternatively, we could say the Inquisitors Ahsoka fought were much more powerful, with over a decade of growth from the ones Tensu Run fought, which should place Ahsoka firmly above Tensu.
So, personally, I have Tensu Run somewhere between Season 2 Kanan and Rebels Ahsoka. Still a pretty formidable Jedi, all things considered. Kanan and Ahsoka both had the potential to be eventual Council members, had Order 66 not happened. Tensu Run being in the same league as the two of them really does line up with his legendary status in the comic run.
Originally posted by Galan007
Slightly off-topic, but for some reason I really liked Tensu Run as a character. Maybe it's his ambiguous, hope-inducing aura(dude was basically heralded as the second coming.) Maybe it's his criminally under-explored backstory(I want to know how he survived Order 66 and attained "legend" status so quickly afterward.) Maybe it's his tragic/abrupt death just before establishing a proper NJO and potentially overthrowing the Empire in its infancy(Vader made it clear that Tensu WAS that much of a threat... Basically the "Luke before Luke".) Etc.Dunno why, but I'd just like to see more of his story fleshed-out in the future.
Yep. Qui-Gon was impressed by the mind-whammy Tensu used to compel multiple attackers to just... Fall asleep:
https://ibb.co/KjbqCkSt
...Which was actually a pretty cool/unique feat. More impressive still is that Tensu simply made-up that technique(which not even Qui-Gon had seen before) on the fly when he was still a Padawan. 👆
I agree completely. Tensu Run might have had exceedingly little "screen time" as it were, but he was an exceptionally well-written character. He's basically the Jedi ideal, a beacon of hope and optimism in the face of overwhelming darkness, inspiring everyone around him to the best versions of themselves. Even at the end, he accepted his death with grace, never giving into despair. I really hope we see more storytelling with him in the future.
Sorry for the late reply.
Yeah Kanan seeks Luminara’s help before he learns of the GI, my bad.
But I’m pretty sure Tensu does slash the GI, in addition to kicking him. There is like a little spark on GI’s armour when Tensu swings his lightsaber at him which indicates he may have cut through it, albeit only superficially.
Anyway, 100% agree with you all. I really did enjoy Tensu as a character and I’m sure we’ll see more of him. I think his comic run was kinda wasted tbh, each issues should have had more pages. It felt kinda rushed. Was freeing those prisoners enough to make him a major threat like the comics imply? It seems a bit too little tbh, he just have done more. And his order 66 flashback was too short. We know he was with 4 other Jedi and he survived but how? Did he kill all the clones until he was the last one standing?
I also hoped the author gave us more info about him in the clone wars. If they told he was a respected Jedi general who won many battle it would be easier to believe why he is such a major threat. Because so far the likes of Cal or Cere or many other rebels did more damage than he did to the Empire.
Anyway I disagree his performance against the Inquisitors was better than Ashoka’s. Ahsoka manhandled those two, Tensu was holding his own pretty well but still he wasn’t as dominant as Ahsoka was.
If whoever wrote that comic run simply let Vader out of it and had GI lead the hunt and fight Tensu 1v1 we could gauge his level better. Vader kinda ruined the whole show
Originally posted by Underachiever59The "beacon of hope"/"Luke before Luke" thing is probably why I enjoyed him so much, tbh. 👆
I agree completely. Tensu Run might have had exceedingly little "screen time" as it were, but he was an exceptionally well-written character. He's basically the Jedi ideal, a beacon of hope and optimism in the face of overwhelming darkness, inspiring everyone around him to the best versions of themselves. Even at the end, he accepted his death with grace, never giving into despair. I really hope we see more storytelling with him in the future.
That aura alone made Tensu a legitimate threat to the entire damn Empire, which even Vader himself lowkey feared. He would've been the ideal THR-era Jedi, tbh.
Originally posted by Total WarriorInquisitor-scaling is an unreliable measuring stick in this case anyway, imo. It only works if we assume the Inquisitors remained stagnant(ie. did not improve) in the years between their fight(s) with Tensu Run in the comic series, and their fight(s) with Ahsoka in Rebels... Which is unlikely, given Vader's decree on the matter:
Besides, 5th Bro vs Tensu wasn't that much of a stomp imo. 5th managed to hit him and had him on his knees. Tensu but the gap between the two didn't appear to be too large. He did better than S2 Kanan but way worse than Ahsoka
So we can assume that any Inquisitors who were allowed to live also displayed continuous growth(Vader literally made it mandatory.) IOW, Rebels-era Inquisitors are logically > earlier-era Inquisitors [to some extent.]
Tensu's showings against them(both individually and as a team) were still impressive, though.
I doubt the Inquisitors became vastly more powerful or anything, even with Vader's directive in place. He wasn't asking them to improve by leaps and bounds, he just wanted to see SOME type of improvement. It's not like we're comparing AOTC Anakin to ROTS Anakin, where we know his power absolutely skyrocketed over that time.