Ares vs Iron Man

Started by StiltmanFTW4 pages

You realize artists don't give crap about specifics?

It was the Extremis suit, even got summoned the same way.

It never got called the extremis. And extremis again...has VERY specific abilities and attributes that are unique to that armor. If its any armor other than THIS one...

...then it wasn't hardwired to work in tandem with extremis and his body. Even if it was during civil war...its totally plausible Tony just chose to put on a different suit.

Again, he summoned it Extremis-style. Why ignore that?

And why would he equip an old suit with the newest SPIN tech?

Same tech he used against WWH shortly afterwards.

Marvel artists make mistakes all the damn time. Hulk bleeding red blood. Wolverine's bone claws looking like adamantium. Remember Bleeding Edge fighting depowered Rulk? You're going to argue it was some older model, too? Even though he stuck with it for the entire Heroic Age?

And for what it's worth, it's clearly the Extremis suit on the cover. Run from the truth all you like.

You're talking about the cover??? To be honest I don't think the writer/artist even knew the difference(which is MASSIVE as he pretty much jumped to the next tier after the extremis dose) The only thing similar to extremis was the deployment...which is something Tony could have easily started integrating into his suits afterwards. One major thing missing from the armor was its trademark speed. That suit in the she-hulk comic looked slow and clunky.

Yeah:

https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/1/20/5c7544f926563/clean.jpg

He calls his armor elements to him and equips it nigh instantly... which is something Pre-Extremis armor was incapable of doing, as shown on panel during Ellis' run.

Besides, why would anyone equip an older suit of armor with the adamantium needle and latest power-nullifying tech? Doesn't make sense.

"Its trademark speed". Lol, gtfo.

Tony had dozens of crappy speed showings while wearing the Extremis suit. You're going to assume he had a different suit each time, based on minor art differences? Seriously?

He's worn that suit for four years. Plenty of artists didn't get the armor right, doesn't mean he switched suits.

Again, Bleeding Edge vs. Rulk. From Hulk #25 and #26. Artist there chose to make it look nothing look like BE, yet there's no doubt it was that model. Happens all the damn time.

OMG SHOULDER PADS CAN'T BE EXTREMIS

[Mighty Avengers era]

As I've said many times, editors are getting paid for nothing in Marvel.

Writers and artists have lots of freedom, raping the original design however they like.

Yeah...It makes no sense that he takes an old armour, upgrades it to bring it up to his latest armour, and uses it. When he has his latest armour just.....Lying there.

For all intents and purposes, the Extremis upgrade only existed in Iron Man's own book. Every other book ignored it, because Civil War had just happened and Iron Man was making the rounds getting raped in everyone else's book.

Sounds like a typical Iron Man armour, actually. Great on paper until he actually interacts with a hero.

Originally posted by VanMae
For all intents and purposes, the Extremis upgrade only existed in Iron Man's own book. Every other book ignored it, because Civil War had just happened and Iron Man was making the rounds getting raped in everyone else's book.

Lol, no. The upgrade was a huge deal and was referenced everywhere. It redefined Stark and his abilities.

No, not really. There was a minor bit of lip-service to him being able to hack computers with his mind, otherwise the extremis upgrade didn't exist outside of his book.

You're wrong.

Really? What issue outside his book made use of his massive speed upgrade?

Originally posted by VanMae
Really? What issue outside his book made use of his massive speed upgrade?

Remember how fast IM got wtf-pwned on Mighty Avengers vs Ultron. It was one speedy showing.

Originally posted by VanMae
Really? What issue outside his book made use of his massive speed upgrade?

Extremis is more than just speed.

Wasp and Doom commented on his upgrades in team books. So did Cap in the aftermath of CW.

They commented on his ability to hack stuff. The more important upgrades didn't exist outside his own book.

Wrong again.

Well then enlighten me: what upgrades were mentioned outside of his book?

Originally posted by VanMae
No, not really. There was a minor bit of lip-service to him being able to hack computers with his mind, otherwise the extremis upgrade didn't exist outside of his book.

Lol he shrugged off an attack from the sentry and phukking soloed graviton 😐 . In a match up thats usually a little bit of a back and forth, extremis hospitalized Steve Rogers with ease.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yeah:

https://i.annihil.us/u/prod/marvel/i/mg/1/20/5c7544f926563/clean.jpg

He calls his armor elements to him and equips it nigh instantly... which is something Pre-Extremis armor was incapable of doing, as shown on panel during Ellis' run.

Besides, why would anyone equip an older suit of armor with the adamantium needle and latest power-nullifying tech? Doesn't make sense.

"Its trademark speed". Lol, gtfo.

Tony had dozens of crappy speed showings while wearing the Extremis suit. You're going to assume he had a different suit each time, based on minor art differences? Seriously?

He's worn that suit for four years. Plenty of artists didn't get the armor right, doesn't mean he switched suits.

Again, Bleeding Edge vs. Rulk. From Hulk #25 and #26. Artist there chose to make it look nothing look like BE, yet there's no doubt it was that model. Happens all the damn time.

Like I said tho, he could have added that feature to any of the armors. Deployment and time period are the only things that suggest the suit being extremis...yet literally NONE of its exclusive traits (and abilities)are on the page. If anything its clear the writer had absolutely no clue of extremis. Its not just design. There's no specific reference to extremis or its abilities other than deployment. Even if it was extremis...that would likely be its lowest feat ever which still isn't too bad.