Originally posted by Zelax
The majority of the Avengers line up, isn't doing squat to Doomsday. Maybe, apart from Monica, who has some impressive energy manipulation feats. Nevertheless, i still don't think it will be enough to take down Doomsday, as he will adapt to the last exposure and become more powerful.
Certain versions of Wanda could beat him. Monica will give him pause but overall this team isn't that good
Originally posted by Zelax
Didn't notice Wanda, and I doubt that she will be useful here, since it's more than likely the current version that's utilized here.
That doesn't go very far in addressing the chaos magic that he has never encountered. She would know going in that she shouldn't go easy on DD.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Full powah!
Remember, he's weakened here. And all these DIFFERENT types of energy isn't really doing much, despite being at full power. Whilst some of you may argue that Wanda would go in at full power as well, I'm just pointing out that DD here has already been through a Guardian dying on him, the Radiant etc.
And despite being very much weakened, still walked through and tanked various different types of energy like it was nothing.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Remember, he's weakened here. And all these DIFFERENT types of energy isn't really doing much, despite being at full power. Whilst some of you may argue that Wanda would go in at full power as well, I'm just pointing out that DD here has already been through a Guardian dying on him, the Radiant etc.And despite being very much weakened, still walked through and tanked various different types of energy like it was nothing.
We all saw how powerful Wanda is when it comes to DC. In DC, Wanda would be a Chaos Lord. DD has never encountered her power, so she can't be discounted here, especially since she's the most powerful of the bunch. She is a bit of a glass canon, but if she successfully manages to launch an assault, it could be devastating to him. You also can't compare Radiant to Monica. She can shift to any energy form at will. They could win this.
Originally posted by Stoic
We all saw how powerful Wanda is when it comes to DC. In DC, Wanda would be a Chaos Lord. DD has never encountered her power, so she can't be discounted here, especially since she's the most powerful of the bunch. She is a bit of a glass canon, but if she successfully manages to launch an assault, it could be devastating to him. You also can't compare Radiant to Monica. She can shift to any energy form at will. They could win this.
Wanda in DC never happened,at least, not for the purposes of KMC. Moreover, you're assuming the Avengers come to DC,rather than DD coming to Marvel, or a third arena where neither side gets an advantage.
Am comparing the Radiant to Monica in the sense that they are both energy beings, and immaterial, without a physical form. That didn't matter to DD.
As for the type of energy, he didn't need to adapt to Fire, or Bloodwynd, or Guy. He just tanked it.
Bloodwynd who, it has been pointed out to me, is magical in his energy.
And whilst they can absolutely win, it has been pointed out that DD still has his speed.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wanda in DC never happened,at least, not for the purposes of KMC. Moreover, you're assuming the Avengers come to DC,rather than DD coming to Marvel, or a third arena where neither side gets an advantage.Am comparing the Radiant to Monica in the sense that they are both energy beings, and immaterial, without a physical form. That didn't matter to DD.
As for the type of energy, he didn't need to adapt to Fire, or Bloodwynd, or Guy. He just tanked it.
Bloodwynd who, it has been pointed out to me, is magical in his energy.
And whilst they can absolutely win, it has been pointed out that DD still has his speed.
Monica also has speed. Chaos magic is still something that he has not encountered which was my point. You can't simply tag DD with full immunity when he isn't, which is why saying DD without a doubt wins becomes a no limits fallacy in his favor. He could win, but they could win as well.
Originally posted by StoicThe rules don't state the specific morals of this fight, so I wouldn't be to sure if Wanda will be blood lusted right off the bat. The same can apply to the rest as well.
That doesn't go very far in addressing the chaos magic that he has never encountered. She would know going in that she shouldn't go easy on DD.
Originally posted by Zelax
The rules don't state the specific morals of this fight, so I wouldn't be to sure if Wanda will be blood lusted right off the bat. The same can apply to the rest as well.
Depends when the fight takes place.
If DD is as at the start of the storyline, he's at his weakest, but nobody knows who he is (common knowledge).
By the end of the storyline, common knowledge rules mean the Avengers know what the general populace of DC Earth knows. Which is that this is one bad mofo, who doesn't hold back and is a mindless beast who just ran through their greatest heroes.
With that knowledge, they likely won't hold back and would go all in.