Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I don't know man.So many people are obese just because they are unmotivated and lazy. I just hate fatties. I'm not saying throw tomatoes at them, but goddamn, it's gross.
It creates this positive feedback loop of inactivity and lethargy. If throwing tomatoes at them will at least get them jogging, I'm all for it tbh. They'll thank us when they're down to a healthy weight.
Fat shaming is more likely to cause someone to not change and possibility even engage further in the activity/or lack of activity they're doing that got them(or in part) to obese to begin with.
tl;dr: You're better off with positive reinforcement, than negative if you want someone to change
Originally posted by Robtard
Fat shaming is more likely to cause someone to not change and possibility even engage further in the activity/or lack of activity they're doing that got them(or in part) to obese to begin with.tl;dr: You're better off with positive reinforcement, than negative if you want someone to change
Is that what happened with Smokers? Did smoke-shaming cause them to smoke more?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Is that what happened with Smokers? Did smoke-shaming cause them to smoke more?
Not sure the two are equally comparable, as one of the biggest anti-smoking sells was "you're not just killing yourself, the second-hand smoke is killing those around you", not sure that applies to obese people?
Anecdotally, I did know a guy who would smoke more just to be annoying when people gave him the standard "you know smoking is bad, right...". But he was a special *******.
edit: Iirc, DarthGoober who is a disgusting smoker also has this outlook towards people who are disgusted by his smoking. He'll smoke more, blow it in another's direction etc. We had a talk a year+ ago.
Originally posted by Robtard
Not sure the two are equally comparable, as one of the biggest anti-smoking sells was "you're not just killing yourself, the second-hand smoke is killing those around you", not sure that applies to obese people?Anecdotally, I did know a guy who would smoke more just to be annoying when people gave him the standard "you know smoking is bad, right...". But he was a special *******.
edit: Iirc, DarthGoober who is a disgusting smoker also has this outlook towards people who are disgusted by his smoking. He'll smoke more, blow it in another's direction etc. We had a talk a year+ ago.
You might have a point. They are just killing themselves when being fat.
They are killing their children, however. If they eat poorly, their children are affected into obesity almost invariably which makes it worse than smoking.
It's quite a predictable outcome.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejm199709253371301
Also, a while back, I remember reading that even when parents kept a good diet for their children, if the parent was obese, so would the child. Part of it was the child not believing any stupid shit the parent said about diet because the parent was a fatty.
So it's worse if they have kids? Can the anti-fat campaign say, "Being fat doesn't just kill you, it's killing your children. Stop being a fatass." ?
Originally posted by Robtard
Fat shaming is more likely to cause someone to not change and possibility even engage further in the activity/or lack of activity they're doing that got them(or in part) to obese to begin with.tl;dr: You're better off with positive reinforcement, than negative if you want someone to change
Hmmm.
I guess if someone's obese already, they have a pretty weak mentality that is driven by short-driven dopamine highs and low impulse control.
Negative reinforcement probably does no good. But I don't know. I think some forced hard labour in some modern-day mandatory gyms will straighten out at least a large majority.