Notre Dame cathedral fire

Started by Silent Master5 pages
Originally posted by TempAccount
Notre Dame has what going for it again exactly?

Just several hundred years of history, but that can hardly match a car. right?

Originally posted by Silent Master
Just several hundred years of history, but that can hardly match a car. right?

Yeah, it's a ridiculous comparison. I would say that, even more so then it's historical significance, Notre Dame is important because of it's cultural significance.

Originally posted by TempAccount
Joan of Arc wasn't even real,

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Originally posted by TempAccount
and Bonaparte was nothing more than your average dictator.

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Originally posted by panthergod
I'm sure the milleniums worth of child rape victims of the Catholic Church, one of the longest lasting terrorist organizations in history, are just apoplectic at the thought of a building burning. Oh the humanity.

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A billion euros raised in 3 days for a building. Imagine that kind of effort to solve real problems.

Originally posted by panthergod
I'm sure the milleniums worth of child rape victims of the Catholic Church, one of the longest lasting terrorist organizations in history, are just apoplectic at the thought of a building burning. Oh the humanity.

Did we imply somehow that the loss of a building is a worst atrocity than mass rape or crimes of war? You seem to be disingeniously looking for arguments to fit your narrative. Losing pieces of art and monuments is a sheer loss and it's not minimized because there are "bigger loses". That kind of thinking is, again, intellectually dishonest and low hanging.

If you must hate on catholics or french people just accept that you are filled with vile feelings and stop your fake rationality. It has nothing to do with a burning building.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
A billion euros raised in 3 days for a building. Imagine that kind of effort to solve real problems.

Agreed.

Now, being more realistic it often depends on who choses what constitutes a "real problem" and a "real solution". Overpopulation is a problem. Mass extinction of animals because of human activities is a problem. These are not things that will be solved solely by throwing money at them.

Originally posted by Bentley
Agreed.

Now, being more realistic it often depends on who choses what constitutes a "real problem" and a "real solution". Overpopulation is a problem. Mass extinction of animals because of human activities is a problem. These are not things that will be solved solely by throwing money at them.

You're not thinking unethically enough. Pay poor third world families to get sterilised. Sorted.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
You're not thinking unethically enough.
This sentence brings a smile to my face.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
A billion euros raised in 3 days for a building. Imagine that kind of effort to solve real problems.

What do you define as real problems?

Originally posted by Silent Master
What do you define as real problems?
Poverty.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What do you define as real problems?

Poverty, homelessness, famine, shell shocked veterans, orphans, education, clean water........All more problematic than a 900 year old building.

This is one of those instances where you do a double-take: how can something that's been around for so long and had already been through so much ... now? that's it? it's going? Sayonara to 850 yrs?

Thankfully, no.

Originally posted by Silent Master
What do you define as real problems?

Things like how half a billion people live with chronic water scarcity year round and half the planet with it for at least 1 month per year.

The fact the current rate of species extinction is as high as 1000x the natural background extinction rate.

Or that the global sustainability institute is predicting a massive collapse in agricultural productivity within 20 years without massive investment in new technologies and implementation of genetic engineering.

Originally posted by Impediment
Poverty, homelessness, famine, Shell shocked veterans, orphans, education, clean water........All more problematic than a 900 year old building.

Most if not all of those are already being worked on via government programs and in different communities through people donating their time and money.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Most if not all of those are already being worked on via government programs and in different communities through people donating their time and money.

There was as much money raised for this building in 3 days as Comic Relief has raised in nearly 30 years.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
There was as much money raised for this building in 3 days as Comic Relief has raised in nearly 30 years.

Ok?

Three days versus three decades.

Does it really need to be explained?

Originally posted by Impediment
Three days versus three decades.

Does it really need to be explained?

I get it, he's upset that other people gave more of their money to something that they care about, rather than what he cares about.

Originally posted by Impediment
Three days versus three decades.

Does it really need to be explained?

SM is a bit slow.

There' also the real fact that one is a cause to restore a building, albeit a historic one and the other is a cause to fight homelessness, starvation and poverty.