Debate: Is Belief in the Resurrection Unreasonable?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Nope... not when there is overwhelming evidence to support it, it's not. Over 500 people saw Jesus alive after He died. Sorry, but I don't believe they all lied. It's not like they got any reward for saying it.

Oh, really? What are their names? Where are their individual accounts? And why is it not mentioned anywhere outside of the bible?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Christians started going thru great persecution soon after His death/resurrection like being fed to the lions, beheaded, crucified, set on fire, and stoned. If they just had renounced Christ then they could've avoided all of it. Who would ever go thru such persecution over a lie?

Some Buddhists have been willing to immolate themselves. Does that make their beliefs true? Some Muslims have been willing to detonate explosives strapped to their bodies, and fly planes into buildings. Does that make their beliefs true?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Also, His body was never found. The romans and the jews who betrayed Christ had a great interest in making sure His body never disappeared. Yet it still did.

How do you know there was a body? And how do you know that it was never found?

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
So, nah... it's not unreasonable at all. In fact, it is more reasonable to believe it than it isn't. 👆

That is not how the burden of proof works.

Oh, Adam... you just so desperately want God and the Bible to be a "fairy tale" don't you? You know that He would not approve of your lifestyle (and you know what I mean by this). Hate to break it to you, but what happened at Sodom and Gomorrah (God raining fire from the sky & wiping both cities off the face of the earth) were real, actual events... not just "stories" as you no doubt have managed to convince yourself of.

When Judgment Day comes, and rest assured, it will, there will be no second chances.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Oh, Adam... you just so desperately want God and the Bible to be a "fairy tale" don't you? You know that He would not approve of your lifestyle (and you know what I mean by this). Hate to break it to you, but what happened at Sodom and Gomorrah (God raining fire from the sky & wiping both cities off the face of the earth) were real, actual events... not just "stories" as you no doubt have managed to convince yourself of.

When Judgment Day comes, and rest assured, it will, there will be no second chances.

Still not evidence. Just claims.

It's okay to be skeptical, eThneo. You should try it sometime. Especially when the claims are difficult to believe it's best not to be so gullible.

I guarantee you wouldn't be so gullible if the claims were reports of Elvis being seen alive, or f#cking Stephen Hawking seen alive tap-dancing or something.

Jesus tap-dancing Christ.

Same thing I said above goes for you too, PL.

Your evolutionary religion is a lie. It certainly isn't science. Mankind did not evolve from apes or any other lower life form. We were created by God, Himself.

Accept Jesus Christ, before it is too late.

Thanks, bro. My dad is a fundamentalist, too. I grew up that way. (Thank the God I don't believe in) I got out. Reality is so much more interesting and fascinating than delusion.

Threats aren't evidence either, btw, and won't convince anyone.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Oh, Adam... you just so desperately want God and the Bible to be a "fairy tale" don't you? You know that He would not approve of your lifestyle (and you know what I mean by this). Hate to break it to you, but what happened at Sodom and Gomorrah (God raining fire from the sky & wiping both cities off the face of the earth) were real, actual events... not just "stories" as you no doubt have managed to convince yourself of.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
When Judgment Day comes, and rest assured, it will, there will be no second chances.

Ásatrú is the correct religion. When non-believers die, they will be slaves of Hel in Niflheim for eternity.

Worship Odin or burn forever.

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Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Hey Leech, why dont you make threads about how stupid Islam beliefs are?

He participated in one, if he didn't start it ...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f80/t644795.html

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Hey Leech, why dont you make threads about how stupid Islam beliefs are?

Originally posted by bluewaterrider
He participated in one, if he didn't start it ...

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f80/t644795.html

An obvious example of Whataboutism.

Hey, these people are discrediting Christianity, which can't be logically defended, so all I can do is say, "But what about Islam? Huh?? (the only religion arguably worse than mine)" crybaby

We should do a religion tier thread

Originally posted by Bentley
We should do a religion tier thread

A relevant and very good discussion on the subject. This one doesn't get heated or hostile at all, so it's a more pleasant discussion. Richard Carrier is a brilliant speaker and writer on this topic and related topics...

YouTube video

Originally posted by Surtur
So the question is: is it unreasonable to believe that a cosmic entity created the universe and then one day impregnated a human in order to give birth to itself, then had itself die, then had itself brought back only to be reunited with itself?

Yes, that's why Mormons don't believe in the Trinity idea...

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes, that's why Mormons don't believe in the Trinity idea...

You Mormons are so awesome. Kudos to you! 👆 👆

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yes, that's why Mormons don't believe in the Trinity idea...

That's what gets me...

It's roughly calculated that Jesus died nearly 1,989 years ago.

Simply, that's nearly 2,000 years of blind faith & no proof.

Originally posted by Esau Cairn
That's what gets me...

It's roughly calculated that Jesus died nearly 1,989 years ago.

Simply, that's nearly 2,000 years of blind faith & no proof.

Yup, it's unfalsifiable. Anyone not indoctrinated should know that it can be dismissed in the absence of significant evidence.

There's simply no good reasons to give it serious consideration.

Which Resurrection? Jesus or Tupac?