Fact: The same Trumpers who are now moaning that Obama didn't do enough regarding Russia during the 2016 election are the same people who said in 2016 that if Obama brings up Russian meddling it's to damage Trump via association and help Clinton win. Trumpers, always flipping and never honest, not even with themselves.
Originally posted by Robtard
Fact: The same Trumpers who are now moaning that Obama didn't do enough regarding Russia during the 2016 election are the same people who said in 2016 that if Obama brings up Russian meddling it's to damage Trump via association and help Clinton win. Trumpers, always flipping and never honest, not even with themselves.
I don't get your point. I cannot comprehend it.
I thought the argument was always that Obama was Putin's b*tch, was too soft on Russia, and colluded with Russia to cause Trump to lose the election.
Where did your version come from?
Originally posted by Robtard
Fact: The same Trumpers who are now moaning that Obama didn't do enough regarding Russia during the 2016 election are the same people who said in 2016 that if Obama brings up Russian meddling it's to damage Trump via association and help Clinton win. Trumpers, always flipping and never honest, not even with themselves.
Can't speak for others, but I'm not moaning necessarily. I am pointing out the hypocrisy cuz folk cried when Trump tried to ignore Russia's shady shit in order to have a positive relationship with them.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I don't get your point. I cannot comprehend it.I thought the argument was always that Obama was Putin's b*tch, was too soft on Russia, and colluded with Russia to cause Trump to lose the election.
Where did your version come from?
You're just not trying hard enough.
That don't make no sense.
From what happened in 2016 and what is happening now. Right now. In this very minute of space and time.
Originally posted by Robtard
You're just not trying hard enough.That don't make no sense.
From what happened in 2016 and what is happening now. Right now. In this very minute of space and time.
I still cannot comprehend your post that I quoted, though.
It has the form and structure of a point but it doesn't make one.
What am I missing? The point I made is what the Trumpers have been doing all along. "Trump is tough on Russia."
"Trump is tough on Russia" wasn't really a yuge thing in 2016
In 2016 it was that Trump was being helped by Russia, Clinton wouldn't shut up about it, along with his tax release dodging. Trumpers complained that if Obama took up the "Hey, Russia's meddling in our election" mantra as well, it would be just to help Clinton by implicating Trump along with Russia.
Should be noted: Trump to this day still thinks Russia didn't meddle. Or at least claims it.
Originally posted by Robtard
"Trump is tough on Russia" wasn't really a yuge thing in 2016In 2016 it was that Trump was being helped by Russia, Clinton wouldn't shut up about it, along with his tax release dodging. Trumpers complained that if Obama took up the "Hey, Russia's meddling in our election" mantra as well, it would be just to help Clinton by implicating Trump along with Russia.
Should be noted: Trump to this day still thinks Russia didn't meddle. Or at least claims it.
Trump didn't come into the presidency until 2017 so how could he be tough on them in 2016?
Originally posted by Robtard
"Trump is tough on Russia" wasn't really a yuge thing in 2016In 2016 it was that Trump was being helped by Russia, Clinton wouldn't shut up about it, along with his tax release dodging. Trumpers complained that if Obama took up the "Hey, Russia's meddling in our election" mantra as well, it would be just to help Clinton by implicating Trump along with Russia.
Should be noted: Trump to this day still thinks Russia didn't meddle. Or at least claims it.
I remember the Steele Dossier thing in 2016. But it wasn't favorable at all to Hillary.
What am I missing? Feels like there's something about the whole situation that would make it make sense but I'm too far behind the partisan shit slinging to understand your point.
It was and always had been, "Trump is hard or will be hard on Russia."
And if Obama and others are trying to bring up Russia and Trump again, it's just like you said - it's to keep Trump and Russia together in everyone's minds to get people to not point the microscope at Dems.
This is not a conspiracy theory. These are confirmed facts. With even CNN producers confirming that this is exactly what they are doing to Trump. On Purpose.