Originally posted by Bentley
This is actually a pretty valid point but your take on feminist speech and media somewhat diverts from the interesting flaw in the rethoric you hear. Construction workers, electricians and plumbers being manual labor makes it a potentially appealing job for working class women, but those are the demographics that integrate sexism into their social interactions the most. The problem here is most poor women wouldn't consider this kind of job and would actually be somewhat rejected at it. You don't hear about this issues because your media doesn't want to face the harsh reality of the working class. It's a fair pretty feminist argument to make.But I'm sure your actual goal was to justify that women won't engage into manual labor that happens on site because they'd feel threatened, as the US is a huge rape culture.
Not the cable media, in any event.
Who are (To beat a dead horse) all purely profit driven businesses that actively distort messages for their own ends.
One example of this is the old canard "A corporations ONLY concern is to shareholder value." This is a distortion of the original message, as claimed by the originator of said message.
Originally posted by Robtard
Jokes aside, we kinda are. While vastly better than say even 25 yeras ago, to this day it's very hard for women to become Firefighters (as an example) and not just because of the physical requirements, the ones that do make it still get shit on by the old school "boys club" mentality.
Lol
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Originally posted by RobtardAs someone who has worked in similar EMS station environments, I can tell you that's not true. All the female partners I worked with were dominating and had the personality to make it through emotionally draining work.
Jokes aside, we kinda are. While vastly better than say even 25 yeras ago, to this day it's very hard for women to become Firefighters (as an example) and not just because of the physical requirements, the ones that do make it still get shit on by the old school "boys club" mentality.
Boys club mentality does not exist outside of 4th grade.
Re: Why don't feminists want equality in the trades?
Originally posted by TempAccount
"Equality in the Workforce , Equality in STEM!" - Most Feminists.But I have a question. Why do feminists want equality in the workforce, but only high paying jobs?
Is it possible you simply tacked that stipulation on yourself?
Re: Why don't feminists want equality in the trades?
Originally posted by TempAccountmaybe u dont seem to see any people demanding gender diversity in these fields because ur not looking.
"Equality in the Workforce, Equality in STEM!" - Most Feminists.But I have a question. Why do feminists want equality in the workforce, but only high paying jobs?
98.7% of construction workers are male and the average salary is $27,750! These people do good and hard work that is necessary to our society but somehow women aren't getting all angry about the disparity of women to men.
If this isn't proof they don't want equality, I don't know what is. "We only want equality if it's good for us." "Lets leave the men for the low paying jobs and the dirty work while we discriminate against them in STEM fields!"
I don't seem to see any people demanding gender diversity in these fields.
It goes to show it really is a selfish movement.
Why is gender inequality so high for plumbers, truck drivers, electricians, mechanics, power plant operators, etc?
"A local movement is paving the way for female electricians, plumbers, carpenters, bricklayers, and more."
"Moir says the rising number of female electricians, plumbers, carpenters, bricklayers, insulators, and sheet-metal workers on jobs here — many of them women of color — shows “there’s something special about what’s going on in Boston and Massachusetts.”
"It didn’t happen by accident. Instead, it’s the direct result of an effort hatched eight years ago by a group of local women with deep ties to the construction industry. Frustrated by the slow pace, they decided to change the composition of Massachusetts construction by working from the inside."
Originally posted by Putinbot1
I know an excellent female civil engineer and an excellent female electrician. In fact the electrician one is able to get into loft spaces most average sized men would struggle in. She has her own business in Sussex in the UK and coins it in.
Smart women.
Trades are the way to go.
Originally posted by Raptor22
maybe u dont seem to see any people demanding gender diversity in these fields because ur not looking."A local movement is paving the way for female electricians, plumbers, carpenters, bricklayers, and more."
"Moir says the rising number of female electricians, plumbers, carpenters, bricklayers, insulators, and sheet-metal workers on jobs here — many of them women of color — shows “there’s something special about what’s going on in Boston and Massachusetts.”
"It didn’t happen by accident. Instead, it’s the direct result of an effort hatched eight years ago by a group of local women with deep ties to the construction industry. Frustrated by the slow pace, they decided to change the composition of Massachusetts construction by working from the inside."
So a local movement in Boston means...what?
Originally posted by Surturi try to be patient with u surt i really do.
So a local movement in Boston means...what?
It means that this part of his op-
"I don't seem to see any people demanding gender diversity in these fields"
Is probably because he's not looking.
Just like i said in the post u quoted. What part are u confused about?
Originally posted by Raptor22
i try to be patient with u surt i really do.It means that this part of his op-
"I don't seem to see any people demanding gender diversity in these fields"
Is probably because he's not looking.
Just like i said in the post u quoted. What part are u confused about?
Ah okay, so you took him 100% literally to mean literally nobody in the history of time and space made the argument.
Neat, I didn't, but you did. Good to know.