Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
@Adam: you should be ashamed of yourself. Christianity is a truly peaceful religion unlike the cult of Islam. You judge a religion based on what it's central figure taught and nothing else. Muhammed taught war and Jesus taught peace, that is a fact. 👆
Matthew 10:34–9
"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law, and a man's enemies will be the members of his household.
He who loves his father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me, and he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who does not take his cross and follow Me is not worthy of Me. He who has found his life will lose it, and he who has lost his life for My sake will find it."
Originally posted by Surtur
So then why are places with a muslim majority not in such a state where it's more taboo to criticize Islam than Christianity? Wouldn't that occur...if this really just boils down to "well it's cuz they are a minority" ?
Lawsuits.
Laws designed to protect minorities became weaponized by political opposition, and mined by easy money prospectors.
It's like the old saying about activism starting as a movement, evolving into a business, and degenerating into a racket. We're well past the racket stages, which is really the bread and butter of lawyers in the country (Of which there is a glut of them, all looking for blood in the water..)
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Matthew 10:34–9"Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law, and a man's enemies will be the members of his household.
👆
Not to mention "God" of the Old Testament who is also sort of a "central figure." He was a bit of a monster and suspiciously human. 😕
That being said, I'm not trying to equate Christianity with Islam, to say that they're the same. They're not and the differences matter a lot. But, I just felt the need to dispel this myth that Christianity is so clean and perfect. Also, the Bible was a great inspiration for cruelty and violence toward slaves, not so unlike the Koran...
Exodus 21:
20 “If a man beats his male or female slave with a club and the slave dies as a result, the owner must be punished. 21 But if the slave recovers within a day or two, then the owner shall not be punished, since the slave is his property.
26 “If a man hits his male or female slave in the eye and the eye is blinded, he must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye. 27 And if a man knocks out the tooth of his male or female slave, he must let the slave go free to compensate for the tooth.
The "Word of God," ladies and gentlemen.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
👆Not to mention "God" of the Old Testament who is also sort of a "central figure." He was a bit of a monster and suspiciously human. 😕
That being said, I'm not trying to equate Christianity with Islam, to say that they're the same. They're not and the differences matter a lot. But, I just felt the need to dispel this myth that Christianity is so clean and perfect. Also, the Bible was a great inspiration for cruelty and violence toward slaves, not so unlike the Koran...
[b]Exodus 21:
20 “If a man beats his male or female slave with a club and the slave dies as a result, the owner must be punished. 21 But if the slave recovers within a day or two, then the owner shall not be punished, since the slave is his property.
26 “If a man hits his male or female slave in the eye and the eye is blinded, he must let the slave go free to compensate for the eye. 27 And if a man knocks out the tooth of his male or female slave, he must let the slave go free to compensate for the tooth.
The "Word of God," ladies and gentlemen. [/B]
Yeah the biblical God is an eldritch abomination. Though still...I'm sure you've heard Sam Harris talk about how the Koran is less contradictory about it's more horrible aspects than the bible is.
Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah the biblical God is an eldritch abomination. Though still...I'm sure you've heard Sam Harris talk about how the Koran is less contradictory about it's more horrible aspects than the bible is.
Hm.. the only thing I can think of that you might be talking about is that I've heard Harris mention that in the ISIS propaganda magazine Dabiq they have a whole section that is dedicated to how little sense Christianity makes with God sending his son to die and shed blood and all that nonsense doctrine and how Islam is actually more straight forward and actually somewhat more compelling because it is less messy in a sense.
Is that what you're talking about?
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Bottom line is Jesus preached love and turning the other cheek while Muhammad preached intolerance and war. Period.
I actually don't entirely disagree with you. You're right. There's a big difference between Christianity and Islam in the sense that Christianity is not melded to government and state the same way Islam is and also the worst the super extreme versions of Christianity get is groups like the Westboro Baptist Church or fundamentalists who send their kids to private schools where they're sheltered from certain facts of science and reality (i.e. evolution, facts about homosexuals, etc). Which is still destructive, but it's undeniably very different from groups like ISIS that set out to dominate the world through terrorism, violence, subjugation of women, etc. That being said, it doesn't mean Christianity doesn't seep its way into lawmaking and government, because it absolutely does.
So regardless of what the Bible actually says (there are some misogynistic and pro-slavery passages), it's undeniable that the two faiths are capable of manifesting themselves in very different ways even in the 21st century.
#154 - WHAT DO JIHADISTS REALLY WANT? (2019)
- The Podcast from Sam Harris I alluded to just a few posts up. This is a must-listen for all you Islam obscurantists. It would be eye-opening for many if they actually took the time to listen.