Donald Trump and the 14 signs of fascism

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Donald Trump and the 14 signs of fascism

Donald Trump and the 14 signs of Fascism
Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:

Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - "Make America Great Again!"

Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Donald's open sanctioning of torture

Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - Muslims or Mexicans take your pick.

Supremacy of the Military - N/A

Rampant Sexism - Donald's sexism is a matter of public record

Controlled Mass Media - Donald is advocating being able to sue any media outlet that writes something bad about him.

Obsession with National Security - Donald has played the terrorism card over and over again.

Religion and Government are Intertwined - Donald frequently questions the faith of his opponents and has even had a fight with the Pope over faith.

Corporate Power is Protected - One look at Donald's economic plans will show you that.

Labor Power is Suppressed - Donald favors taking down the unions.

Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - In fairness Donald shows a lot of disdain these are just among them

Obsession with Crime and Punishment - A major part of his campaign

Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - See Muller Report

Fraudulent Elections - Donald hasn't directly been involved but his party is frequently responsible for fraudulent elections and stealing voter's rights.

Fascinating. I think some of these examples may be reaching, but some patterns are hard to ignore.

And yet in the end, nah he's not a fascist. People need to stop striping these words of all meaning. They've already done it to the word "nazi".

And to those who are gonna try to get into a huge argument trying to claim he's a fascist: this ain't the hill to die on. Don't do it, do not fall into the trap of getting utterly hysterical over this man. These words will absolutely fall on deaf ears cuz Trump Derangement Syndrome is rampant here, but I thought I'd put them out there nonetheless.

Bet this guys thread triggered Surt.

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Originally posted by Putinbot1
Bet this guys thread triggered Surt.

How did you guess? Amazing

I didn't mean to trigger anyone.

Not sure I even agree that corporate power being protected is part of a fascist state as unregulated powerful private corporations could rival a government in terms of economic and cultural influence. Not something a fascist government could tolerate

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Not sure I even agree that corporate power being protected is part of a fascist state as unregulated powerful private corporations could rival a government in terms of economic and cultural influence. Not something a fascist government could tolerate

I think maybe this clarifies the OP's post

The 1983 American Heritage Dictionary defined fascism as: “A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism.” ... In other words, fascism is corporate government – a Libertarian's wet dream.

KEK what? You're conflating fascism with libertarianism now? You do realize they have diametrically opposed sets of principles right...?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
KEK what? You're conflating fascism with libertarianism now? You do realize they have diametrically opposed sets of principles right...?
As the above post showed they agree on a few things.

Radical Liberatians have some overlap.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/09/19/libertarians-have-more-in-common-with-the-alt-right-than-they-want-you-to-think/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.5633ea94ebd2

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/25/us/ohio-hovater-white-nationalist.html

That's kinda dishonest though, because let's be real the economic policy of fascists is really the last thing people care about when it comes to fascism or the alt-right.

In fact the alt-right is rather divided on their economic policy. You have Richard Spencer types whose stance on healthcare honestly looks more like the democrats than the republicans, and you have alt-right economic libertarianesque types.

I'm not at all a fan though of playing the kind of game where you draw some guilt by association to any political stance held by the alt-right and use it to castigate the non-white supremacists who hold some degree of overlap with them on the non-racist things. I think that's bullshit tbh.

Going to disagree kek.

This is interesting mate.

https://thelibertarianrepublic.com/why-some-libertarians-become-fascists/

Another article nobody is going to read. Here is a better one

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Originally posted by Emperordmb
KEK what? You're conflating fascism with libertarianism now? You do realize they have diametrically opposed sets of principles right...?

That is until you want to pretend that libertarian is code speak for alt-right (neo-nazi!) Zomg who knew alt-righters are the new libertarian movement!

Originally posted by Flashing Blade
I didn't mean to trigger anyone.

It's good you didn't actually trigger anyone. Learn what words mean though.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
That's kinda dishonest though, because let's be real the economic policy of fascists is really the last thing people care about when it comes to fascism or the alt-right.

In fact the alt-right is rather divided on their economic policy. You have Richard Spencer types whose stance on healthcare honestly looks more like the democrats than the republicans, and you have alt-right economic libertarianesque types.

I'm not at all a fan though of playing the kind of game where you draw some guilt by association to any political stance held by the alt-right and use it to castigate the non-white supremacists who hold some degree of overlap with them on the non-racist things. I think that's bullshit tbh.

Bingo.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Going to disagree kek.

This is interesting mate.

https://thelibertarianrepublic.com/why-some-libertarians-become-fascists/


It’s not that the ideas of the liberty movement and those of fascists come close at all. One says we should treat all people as individuals and they have a right to self-govern. The other says a dictator should rule, subjugate, and the people should just be subservient. Liberty is a positive good we strive to achieve, but the fascists seek a destruction of liberty in order to establish order. It is completely tragic that some see fascism as better than liberty.

Clearly diametrically opposed principles.

However, there is still some common ground. The Times says “He believes the federal government is too big, the news media is biased, and that affirmative action programs for minorities are fundamentally unfair.”

Someone who is alt-right may hold those points of view, but that doesn't mean they are "alt-right" points of view in and of themselves when there is justification for those perspectives from a different set of principles to the ones the alt-right hold.

It’s important to note that the left has had its fair share of disastrous defections. Jason Kessler was a liberal not long before he organized the Charlottesville rally. That makes sense. The alt-right has a lot in common with the left. Richard Spencer, for example, is an apologetic supporter of many left-wing policies.

Hmmm... so the article you linked said that left-wingers can defect as well? And that segments of the alt-right are more similar to the democrats economically?

Tony Hovater was described as once being a libertarian in the Ron Paul revolution. His grievances, according to them, include “… [that] the federal government is too big, the news media is biased, and that affirmative action programs for minorities are fundamentally unfair.” Many libertarians would agree with all of those issues. However, the similarities end at the surface. Libertarianism is a philosophy of individual rights. Fascism is a doctrine of government control.

More about how the underlying philosophies of libertarianism are different from those of fascism despite some policy agreement.

You are trying to poison the well of anyone on the right by suggesting virtually every form of being right-wing is a "gateway drug" to the alt-right as an excuse to dismiss right-wing talking points, regardless of whether or not they actually come from the alt-right. It's your excuse to call anyone on the right dangerous, or assume that they're racist, or otherwise judge people who believe in individualism and liberty by the views of those who do not.

The article doesn't even prove what you wanted it to prove, and that's the funny thing.

At this point it's best to just assume anyone 1 centimeter to the right of marx is a fascist.

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