Originally posted by deathslash
X-men phucking die. Thor teleports them into a sun that Manifold drops into a black hole before Star Brand makes the black hole cease to exist. Then the Avengers go out for Shawarma.
But why are people assuming there's no mindrape?
These Avengers have been controlled before.
Originally posted by MrMind
was reading first page, Thor or Hype soloing?classic Juggy, Iceman and FP Magneto can keep them occupied
bfr is lame, let's avoid fighting by sending opponent to another place, but a viable tactic I guess
Not to mention, massively ignoring CIS here. It's the Avengers and the X-Men fighting. Pixie isn't going to teleport Steve to the sun and Thor won't try to decapitate Jubilee.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But why are people assuming there's no mindrape?These Avengers have been controlled before.
Good thing current, Phoenix-less Jean was there to save them. She no sold Cassandra's TP attack and was still holding back, while Cassandra was trying to kill her.
https://postimg.cc/622hyXYR
https://postimg.cc/3yw1QpGt
Jean is seemingly = to Cassandra at this point at least, and I see little TP resistance in that lineup outside of Spider-Woman. If we're going the "they go all out route", I see Jean just making them all take a nap Xavier style. Emma, Psylocke, and Cable backing her just guarantees an already forgone outcome.
Originally posted by StyleTime
It's not even that. They just keep ignoring that Pixie can literally do the same to Manifold. This is a rare instance were both teams can counter the BFR option.Not to mention, massively ignoring CIS here. It's the Avengers and the X-Men fighting. Pixie isn't going to teleport Steve to the sun and Thor won't try to decapitate Jubilee.
👆 Cassandra Nova was literally going to the solo the Avengers/Atlantean/X-Men coalition and they were wearing replica Magneto helmets.
Good thing current, Phoenix-less Jean was there to save them. She no sold Cassandra's TP attack and was still holding back, while Cassandra was trying to kill her.
https://postimg.cc/622hyXYR
https://postimg.cc/3yw1QpGtJean is seemingly = to Cassandra at this point at least, and I don't see any additional TP resistance in that lineup. If we're going the "they go all out route", I see Jean just making them all take a nap Xavier style. Emma, Psylocke, and Cable backing her just guarantees an already forgone outcome.
That wasn’t Jean it was a robot so she didn’t really need to block it. there was no psi battle. Cassandra was felled by a nanobot. They were just facing each other.
Oh, that. You're thinking of a separate encounter. That happened a few issues earlier, when Nova took over Rachel's mind(casually, from Genosha while Rachel was in New York).
In the actual battle, Jean had Gabby use the nanobot because she wanted to heal Cassandra rather than kill her. The fight was real though.
tony has had showings of good to very good to....poor tp protection. i'd be surprised if starbrand could be taken over, but no evidence to the contrary makes it baseless speculation. thor has been hit or miss with tp over the years and smasher's armor MIGHT afford SOME protection....
but other than that the others are eff'd and even assuming all of the above ARE protected, they'd then have all the x-men + the other avengers to go against. starbrand against jean (if this is phoenix in this thing) COULD be a super cool match up, but she's the only one i'd say could match starbrand's overall power. assume for a moment they ko each other. even with that, hard to see the avengers winning this. so many players makes anything possible i guess, but the avengers don't have any answer to the overwhelming tp edge here. /shrug
starbrand v phoenis would be awesome to see on paper though.....
Originally posted by StyleTime
Oh, that. You're thinking of a separate encounter. That happened a few issues earlier, when Nova took over Rachel's mind(casually, from Genosha while Rachel was in New York).In the actual battle, Jean had Gabby use the nanobot because she wanted to heal Cassandra rather than kill her. The fight was real though.
Jean is not a robot in this. But a robot/nanobot is what took down Cassandra, not Jean.
So the feat is invalid for Jean. This could maybe be Trinary's feat at best.
They didn't psi fight though. The nanobot stopped her before that happened. Well, they TK fought but Cassandra downed her lol
So not only did Jean NOT "completely ignore" a TP assault, that the battle was won by a nanobot makes your assertion about Jean not needing to "hold back" also makes the whole post pointless
I've already covered this in another thread. You're operating off of a cropped scan broski. That isn't enough to understand what happened here.
Originally posted by StyleTime
👆Her statement about holding back due the Phoenix looks like it was true.
Jean completely ignored a full on telepathic assault from Cassandra Nova recently.
https://postimg.cc/KK9bT79S
https://postimg.cc/qtrYL481
https://postimg.cc/NKmSm5ryJean "loses" eventually
https://postimg.cc/xcGWHyCx...except Jean was just playing dead. She was setting Nova up for Gabby to hit Nova with a personality altering nanite. And Jean explains she wasn't trying to kill Cassandra, but wanted to heal her instead.
https://postimg.cc/TprX0vkc
https://postimg.cc/G8ZZPXGN
https://postimg.cc/7GCFTFG0As you said, "True Jean" strikes again! Even an out-to-kill Cassandra couldn't take her out and Jean wasn't even using her "real" power. Jean doesn't need the weak ass Phoenix yo.
I only see one scan there, although I'm on my phone at the moment.
But, no, you're still mistaken. Jean was explicitly not trying to kill Nova there, and came in with the plan to switch her personality via nanobot.
They fought before the nanobot came into play though. Nova floats there trying to rip Jean's mind apart and fails. Jean tells Captain America this after Nova removes her helmet and says "You think you can keep me out of your head, Jean? I won't be ignored."