And he needed to reverse engineer pre existing boom tube tech to do so. While stark has been able to over ride the high evolutionary’s tech and boom spheres still don’t compare to armors like iron destroyer, God killer, Thorbuster or Phoenix buster and can make armors that can tank attacks from cosmics like juggernaut and Thor. And higher like the destroyer armor, magus and FF ultron. Could make a ship to solo the annihilation wave and has even made dark matter negative zone prisons. Teleport a planet? Tony can do such casually with portal gates and satellites that can also take down planetary threats. Sol’s hammer at just 2 percent charge is a planetary threat. No way curt is hiding from stark when he’s dealt with much more stronger foes
If both had prep, Stark would stomp, it’s clearly not equal.
Originally posted by UKnowDaTruthare we honestly going to pretend that Tony's suits have actually helped even half as often as you're implying? His phoenix buster didn't work at all. His thorbuster specifically channeled the Odinforce and was made solely for fighting Thor but guess what.....he still lost. His hulkbuster has literally never been up to snuff........he got ass raped by she hulk while wearing his extremist suit, he has practically no known counter for magic (which a certain Wakandan king can employ).
Are you serious??? The man casually made an app that allowed millions to customize themselves. When has Bp or Batman consistently made better and better suits still that allowed them to take on threats with physicals much greater than themselves? Justice buster got by on plot, hell bat was made initially with help from the JL and even when he remade it, it couldn’t last long. When have they have been able to make suits to engage cosmic threat, when has their tech been considered advanced years in the future by some of the most advanced minds in marvel like the high evolutionary? When have they made tech for almost any kind of situation? When have they’ve made tech capable of analyzing personal gear of a top smartest mind in the world? (Dr Doom) When have they made something as strong as Sol’s hammer? Lastly, BP has admitted multiple times that Stark is smarter to further stack on to these feats and has needed Wakanda’s brightest minds combined with his own just to keep up
Hell, T'challa's already beaten him before:
The funny part is that this was a stealth suit very specifically designed for getting through Wakandas defenses and taking down Black Panther and just like most of his suits designed for taking down a specific threat, it failed to do the job.
https://i.imgur.com/YrTXW0I.jpg
Sure, Tony may have more raw intelligence than T'challa, but as far as feats go, he's already lost an actual prep battle against one of his opponents in this thread.
Eh, the real T'Challa was knocked unconscious by that same future T'Challa, who had both future knowledge and telepathy. If Tony looked bad there, the actual T'Challa looked worse, since he was unconscious the whole fight. Additionally, this mind-controlled Stark only grabbed a suit. We don't know if he implemented Stark's full plan, whatever that might have been, because he only had so much time before the real Stark would have interfered. Indeed, future T'Challa effectively had one-sided prep, since he knew what Stark's suit had, but the mind-controlled Stark had no chance to counter-prep.
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Both Terrific and Bruce are better at strategy, clearly. Over riding HE tech isn't that impressive. Bruce has done the same thing to New God tech, which is far superior. Bruce is more of a polymath compared to Stark, and it's not even close.
That’s some incredible downplay there. The HE can boost fodder to harm the likes of Thor, affect evolution in a universe and casually toy with existence in an earth as well as replicate it down to all his heroes. He can also manipulate the power cosmic and boost Ultron. New god tech def isn’t superior as everyone from street levelers to cosmics have made use of their technology, it’s quite common. More of a polymath yet he doesn’t hold a candle to any of the feats I’ve mentioned...
The Phoenix buster managed to separate a cosmic Entity, for a suit of armor that’s pretty damn impressive, what feats of BP and Bruce do they have of similar accomplishments? You’re writing off the Phoenix buster failing as if it was really supposed to take down a universal level force, the fact that it did anything is pretty damn impressive. The fact that the thorbuster even managed to contain a force like the Odin force is also pretty damn impressive.
Again, what feats do Bruce and tchalla have like that just with tech? Yeah he got ass raped by she Hulk yet all she Managed to do was flip him while he made her taste her own blood with one hit.... Loving the downplay. Not to mention his suit wasn’t even damaged as he casually took her out with nanites which was part of his plan to test out the weapon. Extremis wasn’t just impressive for physicals but its versatility with weaponry such as that.
Exactly, a stealth suit. His stealth suits are limited on offensive power and stark was clearly holding back and admitted himself that he underestimated him. And tchalla used Ultron and stark tech to make use of the weakness in his heart which was completely situational btw. Using that to say he’s smarter than stark when stark has plenty of feats that say otherwise, and when even tchalla admits twice that stark is the smarter mind is just ridiculous. And I mean taking down a stealth suit when tony has much more higher end shit and casually shut down tchalla’s whole command system...
And where are you getting that he has no counter measures for magic? The man managed to hold his own against doom’s magic and Wanda’s chaos magic and his suits can detect magic
Just ridiculous.
Originally posted by Senor Cage
That's really nothing to what Bruce is doing now. Repairing/constructing the Son Box, and World Forger stating him to be the most strategic mind in existence. Bruce has uber engineering, bio, chemistry, and hacking skills. He can do it all.
Do you even read comics? You keep pulling up this one suit that literally just came out that was made by future Bruce that has no feats. To put that over all of starks achievements and feats is absolutely ridiculous. Repairing isn’t the same thing at all as building btw. For all we know it just needed the power source to be re engaged or a simple fix like that
Pym didn’t even know what it was, and while stark was working on the suit and talking about he needed to crack universal expansion, pym was seen fighting. The Phoenix buster is also modeled in typical iron man fashion so pym’s help if any was obviously minimal. Hellbat was literally made by the entire JL. Can’t compare at all
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Like I said, he repaired the suit, so he knows how it works. Dont worry, it'll have feats. That suit isn't Bruce's only feats. He's easily a better strategist.
Being a better strategist is not gonna win you a prep battle. Especially when your opponent has the better resources and inventions. Repairing the suit and being able to use it doesn’t mean he can build it from scratch. Bruce has no other feats to compare with tony
Originally posted by VanMae
Eh, the real T'Challa was knocked unconscious by that same future T'Challa, who had both future knowledge and telepathy. If Tony looked bad there, the actual T'Challa looked worse, since he was unconscious the whole fight. Additionally, this mind-controlled Stark only grabbed a suit. We don't know if he implemented Stark's full plan, whatever that might have been, because he only had so much time before the real Stark would have interfered. Indeed, future T'Challa effectively had one-sided prep, since he knew what Stark's suit had, but the mind-controlled Stark had no chance to counter-prep.
That is literally a brain damaged T'Challa.
a prepped Tony's armor loses to a brain damaged BP.
You just destroyed your own argument.
Iron Man gets stomped here and it isn't close.
Originally posted by Senor Cage
Seriously. Bruce created Brother Eye, had access to a Mother Box, which is superior to Tony's tech on average. Bruce would shut Tony down.
Wat. The version of Brother eye he made was just a database that even ra’s al ghul could hack into. And you’re saying he can shut down tony?? Unreal. Brother eye’s advancements into what he became was due to it being taken over and rebuilt by others
