Originally posted by ShadowFyreThor is great (I'd give him a solid 4th place here if it makes you feel any better), but he definitely did the worst against Thanos other than Hulk. People always specify IW Thor as if it's some huge difference. Yes he got fat, but he got stomped offscreen in the IW Avengers intro (after his Ragnorok amp) and Endgame. His one good hit in IW was the result of a surprise variable since he couldn't replicate it with Stormbreaker in the next movie against a Gauntlet-less Thanos.
How is Thor not a heavy hitter as well? He slams the ground once and literally everyone but Captain Marvel dies?And are we going by current Wanda? I havent watched a single episode so I may be pretty far out of the loop.
Captain Marvel and Scarlet Witch both would have beat Thanos solo. Strange did the best other than them in a 1v1.
Also I recommend you don't read too much from this thread before watching WandaVision. She was already powerful enough to stomp Thanos solo in IW. She's been amped well beyond that. I'd say she's the deciding factor here over everyone else.
Team 1 should win. Wanda is the MVP. She already showed during the CA:CW that she could control/manipulate Vision's body when she increased his density to send him through several floors and was able to easily encase him inside an energy cube during her battle with Agatha in order to stop him from interfering. And she should be able to casually mindrape either Strange or Tony. The only threat to her on Team 2 is Carol who at least has the mental feat of resisting the Supreme Intelligence. But the others can keep Carol away from her while she's busy and then it's a 4-on-1 onslaught. Also, while Carol does have a mental resistance feat, we don't know how she'll handle it if Wanda actually used her chaos magic against her.
Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I really do need to check it out would yall recommend Wanda vision or bucky and falcon
It's kind of hard to say, because they're very, very different from each other in terms of themes and content for the most part. They do both have some psychological elements in them, but it's approached differently in each show. The Falcon & The Winter Soldier has a lot more political and social commentary in it though. Dunno if you consider that a plus or a minus.
Originally posted by ShadowFyreStart with Falcon and Winter Soldier since it's currently more relevant and you can take part in discussions about the show or here in versus. The final episode is next week.
I really do need to check it out would yall recommend Wanda vision or bucky and falcon
So far though, WandaVision is better on the whole IMO. I didn't expect that since I tend to prefer political action thriller type plots. It's been a fun watch, but it's mostly just small scale stuff with no real implications for the future. I was hoping for more. Great action though, and US Agent is a fantastic character addition to the MCU.
Wanda Vision will also probably have bigger implications in the MCU going forward though (especially with Wanda being in the next Strange movie) due to her new power levels. Save the best for last and watch F&WS first.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Thor is great (I'd give him a solid 4th place here if it makes you feel any better), but he definitely did the worst against Thanos other than Hulk. People always specify IW Thor as if it's some huge difference. Yes he got fat, but he got stomped offscreen in the IW Avengers intro (after his Ragnorok amp) and Endgame. His one good hit in IW was the result of a surprise variable since he couldn't replicate it with Stormbreaker in the next movie against a Gauntlet-less Thanos.Captain Marvel and Scarlet Witch both would have beat Thanos solo. Strange did the best other than them in a 1v1.
Also I recommend you don't read too much from this thread before watching WandaVision. She was already powerful enough to stomp Thanos solo in IW. She's been amped well beyond that. I'd say she's the deciding factor here over everyone else.
Thor got stomped offscreen in IW but it wasn't by Thanos. Or at least not in a one on one scenario. We can infer this because when Hulk threw down with Thanos, Maw stopped Cull from interfering and told him "Let him have his fun".
This seems to imply that Thanos had not yet "had his fun" and thus did not fight Thor in a fair, one on one fight like he did the Hulk.
But even if we removed that line, there's literally nothing in that scene to indicate that Thor got stomped by Thanos. The entire black order was there after all and Thanos already had the power stone.
Anyway, team 1 wins. They have the only reality warper in the fight (Wanda), the best fighter who also happens to be amped with Thor's powers (Cap), the one with the most destructive output and craziest AOE's (Thor), and the physically toughest and strongest character (Hulk).
Team 2 has Vision who's already proven to be susceptible to getting electrocuted and is someone Wanda can control to a degree with her powers. Strange has some great crowd control powers but lacks the offensive output to take out majority of Team 1. Ironman will put up hell of a fight and is quite versatile, but his offensive output is also somewhat lacking. Remember that his best shots only cause Thanos a slight wound. In comparison, Cap was able to knock down Thanos and had him squirming in pain at one point, Wanda was outright crushing Thanos, and Thor's axe was able to completely chop his head off.
Team 2's best player in this case is Captain Marvel who has a good combination of strength, mobility and long range attacks but I'm having a hard time seeing her beating the entire team 1 on her own once her team mates get taken out. She also doesn't have enough feats with her photon blasts to indicate she can take out tanks like Thor and Hulk. We do know that her photon blasts affected Thanos far less than Cap's and Thor's lightning blasts.