GALLUP: TRUMP APPROVAL HITS HIGH; Tops Obama at same time During Presidency
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Approval of President Donald Trump's job performance remains relatively high for him following the release of special counsel Robert Mueller's report in late March, and amid a flurry of positive economic news. After jumping from 39% in early March to 45% in the first half of April, Trump's approval rating held at 46% in a new Gallup poll conducted April 17-30."
Originally posted by dadudemon
That specifically addresses a conversation that Whirly and I were having on this.Seems is numbers did improve after the report release?
Also, goes to show you how popular Obama really was if Trump is still being compared to Obama.
And given how Trump is treated by the media...the fact his approvals reach as high as they do speaks VOLUMES.
Imagine what the approval rating would be if they treated him fairly? If they covered accomplishments as much as they do failures or triggering tweets. If they didn't lie to people about things like the tax cuts.
Originally posted by Bentley
I'm glad the US population shows a manifest distrust of media to this degree. I hope it leads to them going towards the creation or more neutral news agencies and better sources of investigation instead of echo chambers and ideological banter.
Yeah, we've always had some healthy skepticism, but Trump did two things. He gave a voice to that skepticism and he forced the media to show their true colors.
Trump jumped 3% (IBD/TIPP) from last month, good for him.
What's deceptively not said in comparing Obama and Trump here, Obama was handed a recession and it was in full swing by year two of his presidency; that's what Obama had to deal with, the fact his numbers were that high speaks volumes to Obama's leadership skills. Nothing brings numbers down like a recession and unemployment.
While Trump was handed a strong economy to play with.
Originally posted by Robtard
Trump jumped 3% (IBD/TIPP) from last month, good for him.What's deceptively not said in comparing Obama and Trump here, Obama was handed a recession and it was in full swing by year two of his presidency; that's what Obama had to deal with, the facts his numbers were that high speaks volumes to Obama's leadership skills. While Trump was handed a strong economy.
Let's fact check.
You state several facts:
1. Obama was handed a recession.
2. Recession was in full swing by year two of his presidency.
3. Obama's numbers, considering points 1 and 2, speaks volumes to Obama's leadership skills.
4. Trump was handed a strong economy.
Fact 1. Obama was handed a recession.
Financial crisis started during Bush' presidency. Measures to curtail the crisis were started and nearly completed under Bush's presidency.
2009 saw a large drop in economic performance which was already on its way and repairs put in place (evil, crooked repairs).
Obama got to take credit for recovery because he inherited a bad economy that was 100% bound to recover, anyway.
Result: Superficially, true. Under the hood, false.
https://projects.propublica.org/bailout/main/timeline
Fact 2. Recession was in full swing by year two of his presidency.
The recession was over by Obama's second year and in Obama's second year, the economy had a massive jump.
Result: False as can be.
https://www.thebalance.com/us-gdp-by-year-3305543
Fact 3. Obama's numbers, considering points 1 and 2, speaks volumes to Obama's leadership skills.
Based on the actual facts for 1 and 2, you're applauding Bush, not Obama, for the economic recovery. That's probably not what you intended.
Result: False supporting premises, false conclusion.
Fact 4. Trump was handed a strong economy.
Not really. He was handled an okay economy and it has surged under his leadership. Perhaps not due to his leadership, however.
Trump has surely seen some impressive data points in his first term: GDP growth has reached 4.2 percent, unemployment has reached its lowest point in half a century, and the stock market has reached new heights.
Result: Mostly false.
Conclusion:
Obama was spun by the media and the masses as the messiah. The first black president. Super intelligent. Etc. This is the PR machine for Obama.
Trump was always spun as an evil (yes), perverted (yes), corrupt (yes). Media was always against him. Trump doesn't help his image sometimes, as well.
Despite all these factors, for Trump to have approval ratings higher than Obama's during the same time in the presidency while Obama was taking the credit for the economic recovery, that's a miracle.
So you fail the fact check from all angles. Your point is also wrong.
Well no, look at the years/numbers/reasons:
2008 Financial Crisis
Obama's Stimulus Package and How Well It Worked
Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform Act
2016 Presidential Candidates' Economic Plans
Trump's Tax Plan and How It Affects You
Why US Deficit Spending Is Out of Control
edit: Fair play on the "Trump was handed a strong economy", it was okay/decent, "strong" was too strong of a word. So my error there.
Originally posted by Robtard
Well no, look at the years/numbers/reasons:2008 Financial Crisis
Obama's Stimulus Package and How Well It Worked
Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform Act2016 Presidential Candidates' Economic Plans
Trump's Tax Plan and How It Affects You
Why US Deficit Spending Is Out of Controledit: Fair play on the "Trump was handed a strong economy", it was okay/decent, "strong" was too strong of a word. So my error there.
Just take a wild guess when Obama's second year in office started...
Now I'm not saying it was after 2009 or before 2011...but I am.
Also, don't pay too much attention to the bailouts only happening in 2009 from that screenshot you took. They started in 2008 under Bush. Remember this link?
Originally posted by Robtard
Here's Obama in full, plus 2017That link is broken, ddm. "Server Error - We're sorry, but the page you're trying to visit is currently having technical issues."
Answer:
Obama took office January 20, 2009. Guess what year 2010 is? Obama's second year as president.
And the website works just fine for me. 🙂
Almost all of the bailouts, the extreme majority of the bailouts, were approved by Bush. One of the last items he presided over was on Jan 15th when the Senate approved the second half of the bailout funds. That was part for the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act. Signed by Bush, not Obama. 😉
That was one of the last things of business Bush Jr. took care of before turning the White House over to Obama on the 20th of Jan, 2009.
🙂
But, I know you're just trolling. It's fun for you to pretend links don't work.
But, no worries! I can play along!!! WEEE!
Originally posted by Bentley
Crap, why aren't more people thanking Bush for saving your economy?
This is a good point. The credit (pun?) people give to Obama for "fixing the economy" should be given to Bush, not Obama. It's odd that they give Obama credit, though. But, hey, that's what we get for having the best PR-president in History: weird PR that misattributes legislation to the wrong president.
Not trolling, link does not work for me:
No, I didn't tamper with the address. I just clicked
Originally posted by dadudemon
Let's fact check.You state several facts:
1. Obama was handed a recession.
2. Recession was in full swing by year two of his presidency.
3. Obama's numbers, considering points 1 and 2, speaks volumes to Obama's leadership skills.
4. Trump was handed a strong economy.
[b]Fact 1. Obama was handed a recession.
Financial crisis started during Bush' presidency. Measures to curtail the crisis were started and nearly completed under Bush's presidency.
2009 saw a large drop in economic performance which was already on its way and repairs put in place (evil, crooked repairs).
Obama got to take credit for recovery because he inherited a bad economy that was 100% bound to recover, anyway.
Result: Superficially, true. Under the hood, false.
https://projects.propublica.org/bailout/main/timeline
Fact 2. Recession was in full swing by year two of his presidency.
The recession was over by Obama's second year and in Obama's second year, the economy had a massive jump.
Result: False as can be.
https://www.thebalance.com/us-gdp-by-year-3305543
Fact 3. Obama's numbers, considering points 1 and 2, speaks volumes to Obama's leadership skills.
Based on the actual facts for 1 and 2, you're applauding Bush, not Obama, for the economic recovery. That's probably not what you intended.
Result: False supporting premises, false conclusion.
Fact 4. Trump was handed a strong economy.
Not really. He was handled an okay economy and it has surged under his leadership. Perhaps not due to his leadership, however.
Result: Mostly false.
Conclusion:
Obama was spun by the media and the masses as the messiah. The first black president. Super intelligent. Etc. This is the PR machine for Obama.
Trump was always spun as an evil (yes), perverted (yes), corrupt (yes). Media was always against him. Trump doesn't help his image sometimes, as well.
Despite all these factors, for Trump to have approval ratings higher than Obama's during the same time in the presidency while Obama was taking the credit for the economic recovery, that's a miracle.
So you fail the fact check from all angles. Your point is also wrong. [/B]
Hilarious.
Yeah, Obama was handed a recession (I have no love for RINO warmongering globalist Bush) because of a BS war stoked by the lies of the MSM that Iraq had WoMD but he made it like ten times worse. Our national debt doubled under his so-called "leadership" and his massive regulations on small businesses didn't help the economy one bit either.
Trump lifted many of those strangulations on private business owners and brought massive amounts of jobs back (something Obama said couldn't be done) yet Obama and his pathetic supporters still try to claim Obama is the one who should be getting credit for the booming economy. 🙄
Quite pathetic, indeed. But I expect no less from his lame supporters. 👆
And no, Trump was not "handed a strong economy" lmao.
Obama was a turd of a "president" compared to Trump. 👆