If Superman is a 100 then rate these people.

Originally posted by carver9
Sentry and Hyperion most definitely needs a mention. Both have fts exceeding anyone on this list. Sentry haulting one of the most powerful Celestials are proof of this and Hyperion preventing 2 universes from colliding and stopping a planet the same size as earth going 500000 mph dead in its track is an honorable mention as well. Those are just fts off the top of my head.

Hyperion is all over the place strenghtwise, unless you're going to differentiate all the version of Hyperion including King Hyperion who failed to stop an asteroid from crashing into the Earth or JL Hyperion who failed to stop a satellite from crashing into the planet. But even Hyperion biggest feat the 2 planets separation fail in comparison to SM higher feats.

As for Sentry he's just someone who doesn't hold back, but to be honest I can't think of 1 strenght feat Sentry has done SM couldn't equal of surpass.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lol when did he TEMP prevent two universes from colliding lmao.

Always back to square one with him.

Every time I reply to him it's like I'm young again.

Originally posted by shadowknight
The problem is your bias is showing.

Hyperion is all over the place strenghtwise, unless you're going to differentiate all the version of Hyperion including King Hyperion who failed to stop an asteroid from crashing into the Earth or JL Hyperion who failed to stop a satellite from crashing into the planet. But even Hyperion biggest feat the 2 planets separation fail in comparison to SM higher feats.

As for Sentry he's just someone who doesn't hold back, but to be honest I can't think of 1 strenght feat Sentry has done SM couldn't equal of surpass.

I'm talking about Avengers Hyperion, let's stay consistent here unless Hyperion did a fusion dance with his other incarnations I'm unaware of. Also, what was pushing against those two planets Hyperion held back?

Wait a minute, does Superman have a ft (you can just name one) of overpowering Abstract level power or even half of that. Again, just name one, you dont even have to name multiple fts. Only asking for one showing. Also, please make sure no context is involved.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Every time I reply to him it's like I'm young again.

Stop!!! You are the most inconsistent debater on KMC.

Originally posted by carver9
Stop!!! You are the most inconsistent debater on KMC.

When did Hyperion TEMP prevent two UNIVERSES from colliding?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When did Hyperion TEMP prevent two UNIVERSES from colliding?

I was trying to steal some more air from Hyperion's sails, but he and King Hyperion aren't the same character. Now's my chance to slip in the fact that Blue Marvel would beat up on him as well.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
When did Hyperion TEMP prevent two UNIVERSES from colliding?

Also, carver, maybe you forgot about this thread, so I'll remind you:
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f77/t661268.html

Billy Batson as CM of course:100
Carol Danvers:15
Hercules- Marvel:75
Hulk any or all versions :100
Thor:75
Wonder Woman:80
Martian Manhunter:65
Sentry:-725
Blue Marvel:25
Hyperion- any version:85
Silver Surfer-amped or unamped:65
Supergirl:85
Simon Williams:5
Gladiator:85
Captain Adam:45
Orion:90

Originally posted by Philosophía
I won't rank all-out Superman [i.e. Imperiex Probe plowing, Doomsday splitting etc.], since that'd just instantly make people's noses bleed here when everybody moves towards zero. So to take a 'serious' Justice League Superman:

Billy Batson - 80
Carol Danvers - 40
Hercules - 80
Hulk [not a particular, but general versions] - 90
Thor - 80
Wonder Woman - 80
Martian Manhunter - 75
Sentry - which version? Average 'serious hero' one is about 90, 'Void' is around 100
Blue Marvel - 70
Hyperion - 85
Silver Surfer - 65
Supergirl - 85
Simon Williams - 70
Gladiator - 85
Captain Adam - 75
Orion - 90

This is close enough to mine that any edits I make would not be huge differences.

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As for an "all-out" Superman, the dynamic aspect of his powers means that trying to quantify the others would be pointless, tbh.

Originally posted by h1a8
Why is Sentry stronger than Superman?
Why is Blue Marvel as strong as Superman?
Are you using feats as a basis?

Sentry and Void are the same being. Void's power is Sentry's power. Void casually snaps all of Hulk's bones on two occasions and has physically overwhelmed a combination of teams. Sentry has physically defeated Void and now the two have joined as one.

Blue Marvel matched strength with the same Hyperion that holds two universes apart. BM casually packs a meteor the size of Arkansas and sends Maestro flying with a punch. He also stalemates Sentry, knocking Sentry into orbit. BM one shot KOes Ultimate Hulk.

Originally posted by beatboks
The forward slashes are my ticks where I agree on balanced showings of Supes.

Sentry uses only strength to stop Exitar. He matches Rogue who has absorbed the power of all os Marvel's heroes including Hulk.

Originally posted by carver9
This. Based off pure fts though, I would put Hyperion at about 130 and Orion at 100 based off of their fights. If we are looking at WBH, that's 300 or more tbh.

Sounds reasonable.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Sentry and Void are the same being. Void's power is Sentry's power. Void casually snaps all of Hulk's bones on two occasions and has physically overwhelmed a combination of teams. Sentry has physically defeated Void and now the two have joined as one.

Blue Marvel matched strength with the same Hyperion that holds two universes apart. BM casually packs a meteor the size of Arkansas and sends Maestro flying with a punch. He also stalemates Sentry, knocking Sentry into orbit. BM one shot KOes Ultimate Hulk.

Superman has feats greater than breaker Hulks bones.
And Sentry and Void are different. Marvel even stated that Sentry power level is based off his mental state.

Overwhelming a team is not a strength feat.

Characters dont operate with planet moving levels at all times (not even 1% of the time). So Blue Marvel matching Hyperion doesnt mean he is matching planet level power. Hyperion could have been operating at 1000 tons of strength at the time.