Using dehumanizing language to describe actual dehumanization is not an absurdity nor a dishonesty. I'm not trying to provide a logic that "fits" injustice but to talk in a way that showcases it openly so it doesn't become just the absence of a better thing.
When entering an abortion debate people will talk about choice, about whether someone owns their body and when does human life "start" having value. For me those are red herrings. My goal here is to provide the grounds that illustrate each aspect of these arguments and provide a paradigm that is common for people that are in the opposite sides of the discussion.
I'm not picking semantics here because I get some sadistic pleasure from overusing language, most of the differences I highlight are something people build their ethics upon (without fully realizing it at times). There is a link of ideas you just illustrated in your last reply that would be a good example of this process I'm describing, I'll gladly develop it tomorrow, but I'm very tired at the moment.
Originally posted by TempAccount
The restrictive abortion laws in this country are a direct result of the failing education systems that hesitate to address evolution, health, genetics, and a variety of other "politicized" topics that only are so in this country.
Yeah, but Saudi Arabia is a f*cking shithole though lol.
It is super silly to attempt any kind of gotcha with the Saudis in comparison to Christian conservatives. Jesus lol, what was the OP thinking? TDS is not good for the soul.
Originally posted by SurturDepends what you are doing in Saudi tbh, I enjoyed my time there and found it an easy place to live.
Yeah, but Saudi Arabia is a f*cking shithole though lol.It is super silly to attempt any kind of gotcha with the Saudis in comparison to Christian conservatives. Jesus lol, what was the OP thinking? TDS is not good for the soul.
Originally posted by Surtur
Yeah, but Saudi Arabia is a f*cking shithole though lol.It is super silly to attempt any kind of gotcha with the Saudis in comparison to Christian conservatives. Jesus lol, what was the OP thinking? TDS is not good for the soul.
Most leftists don't appear to actually have a soul though. If they do, they're very sick and twisted ones. They support mass infantacide, after all.
Originally posted by Bentley
1) Using dehumanizing language to describe actual dehumanization is not an absurdity nor a dishonesty.2) I'm not trying to provide a logic that "fits" injustice but to talk in a way that showcases it openly so it doesn't become just the absence of a better thing.
3) When entering an abortion debate people will talk about choice, about whether someone owns their body and when does human life "start" having value. For me those are red herrings. My goal here is to provide the grounds that illustrate each aspect of these arguments and provide a paradigm that is common for people that are in the opposite sides of the discussion.
4) I'm not picking semantics here because I get some sadistic pleasure from overusing language, most of the differences I highlight are something people build their ethics upon (without fully realizing it at times). There is a link of ideas you just illustrated in your last reply that would be a good example of this process I'm describing, I'll gladly develop it tomorrow, but I'm very tired at the moment.
You have set some lofty goals for the discussion but I the direction that your replies are taking you isn't anywhere close to the direction you purport to want to take it.
1) Using dehumanization language to describe actual dehumanization implies that you agree with me that the fetus is indeed being dehumanized. If such dehumanization is something that you acknowledge exists, then how does your use of such language help alleviate this? IF your direction is not to alleviate this injustice then what exactly is your goal?
2) You used the injustice of the loss of agency due to slavery as a metric to base the value of life of a child when we were discussing what socially-acceptable metrics for the valuation of life of a child should be based on. I feel that is more than simply "showcasing it", it is participating in it (albeit in a very minor near insignificant way).
3) I do not see where you showcased this new paradigm you are talking about. As far as I can read, it has all been about devaluing the life of a child via one absurd language/metric to another. If this is indeed your goal, feel free to get started at any time, however.
4) Well, I will wait until you find the time to properly elaborate your point then as I don't really quite get what you are trying to achieve with your logic and use of language.
Originally posted by StyleTime
I've seen some smoking hot Arabian women though.
That is probably true but I can assure you from living here myself that Alabama has a Hell of a lot of fine-looking women as well. Of course it also has some ugly women too as pretty much all states do to some extent and I'm certain Saudi Arabia has as well.
Originally posted by SurturAin't it funny how the US will lose its shit over Syria and Assad's alleged human rights violations, yet we turn a yuge blind eye to the public decapitations, hangings, lashing, inhumane treatment, corrupt justice system, etc that take place in Saudi Land.
Yeah, but Saudi Arabia is a f*cking shithole though lol.It is super silly to attempt any kind of gotcha with the Saudis in comparison to Christian conservatives. Jesus lol, what was the OP thinking? TDS is not good for the soul.
Originally posted by StyleTime
I've seen some smoking hot Arabian women though.I don't think this thread accounted for that enough. 3/10
Fun fact there is a petition for Trump to make her the ambassador to Saudi Arabia 🙂
https://www.change.org/p/donald-trump-make-mia-khalifa-ambassador-to-saudi-arabia
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
That is probably true but I can assure you from living here myself that Alabama has a Hell of a lot of fine-looking women as well. Of course it also has some ugly women too as pretty much all states do to some extent and I'm certain Saudi Arabia has as well.
Well that explains quite a lot.
Originally posted by TempAccount
Ain't it funny how the US will lose its shit over Syria and Assad's alleged human rights violations, yet we turn a yuge blind eye to the public decapitations, hangings, lashing, inhumane treatment, corrupt justice system, etc that take place in Saudi Land.Mia Khalifa though...
Fun fact there is a petition for Trump to make her the ambassador to Saudi Arabia 🙂
https://www.change.org/p/donald-trump-make-mia-khalifa-ambassador-to-saudi-arabia
Well that explains quite a lot.
Oh, indeed dude. It explains why I actually have morals and why I'm not a left-wing dipshit supporter of baby murder and wide-open borders lunacy. 👆
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnaeA zygote is not a baby though...
Oh, indeed dude. It explains why I actually have morals and why I'm not a left-wing dipshit supporter of baby murder and wide-open borders lunacy. 👆
Of course I wouldn't expect you to know that given your residence in a shit-hole sorry-excuse-of-a-state ranked second to last in terms of overall quality of life and 45th in quality of education.
Makes sense why Forrest Gump is from there really.
Originally posted by TempAccount
A zygote is not a baby though...Of course I wouldn't expect you to know that given your residence in a shit-hole sorry-excuse-of-a-state ranked second to last in terms of overall quality of life and 45th in quality of education.
Makes sense why Forrest Gump is from there really.
It is a human life at conception; that is a fact.
Uh... FG is a fictional character, moron, in a fictional movie lol.
The writer was obviously a f***ing moron who believes all the bs propaganda put out by leftist media and the snobs in Hollywood who propagate the lie that all southerners are dumb and illiterate. Also, anyone who does believe that propaganda are morons themselves and shows just how easily they can be brainwashed.
Originally posted by gold slorg
i mean, statistics above support the "propaganda" tbh
🙄 Tbh, it's clear now that you are a moron as well... and a troll. No doubt if we all happened to support baby murder, open borders, socialism, believed in so-called "man-made" climate change nonsense, and that humans all "evolved" from monkeys (lmao) bs then you wouldn't be saying that but since we don't share the same political views and religious beliefs you do you insult us all in typical leftist fashion by calling us dumb. What a shock.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
🙄 Tbh, it's clear now that you are a moron as well... and a troll. No doubt if we all happened to support baby murder, open borders, socialism, believed in so-called "man-made" climate change nonsense, and that humans all "evolved" from monkeys (lmao) bs then you wouldn't be saying that but since we don't share the same political views and religious beliefs you do you insult us all in typical leftist fashion by calling us dumb. What a shock.
Also, as someone who lives here myself and lived here for most of my life I can say with absolute certainty that a very small percentage of the overall population is as mentally deficient as the character of FG. So F- you and your bogus "stats." Do we have dumb people? Yes. I'd be lying if I said otherwise but so does every other state in the union.
Originally posted by Putinbot1
I loved with a Moroccan Arab girl for two years and she was smoking hot as hell. 👆 My present wife is Quarter Arabic.
Originally posted by TempAccount
Mia Khalifa though...Fun fact there is a petition for Trump to make her the ambassador to Saudi Arabia 🙂
https://www.change.org/p/donald-trump-make-mia-khalifa-ambassador-to-saudi-arabia
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
That is probably true but I can assure you from living here myself that Alabama has a Hell of a lot of fine-looking women as well. Of course it also has some ugly women too as pretty much all states do to some extent and I'm certain Saudi Arabia has as well.