AFP Raids ABC (Australia)

Electronic files taken from ABC
Australian Federal Police officers spent more than eight hours raiding the ABC's Sydney headquarters yesterday, leaving with two USB sticks holding an unknown number of electronic files just after 8:00pm.

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The raids were over a series of stories in 2017 called the Afghan Files that revealed allegations of unlawful killings and misconduct by Australian special forces in Afghanistan.

AFP technicians password-protected the files before they were removed and police will be unable to access them until a review period is over.

The ABC's lawyers have two weeks to analyse the documents to determine any privilege claims and assess whether they will challenge the terms of the search warrant.

Article: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-06-06/sydney-morning-briefing-thursday-june-6/11182886

What is happening to this damn country?

OMG!

Sounds like modern day gestapo crap.

Unless ABC News Australia is up to something criminal? They got a warrant. Means they did something terribly wrong if you assume your justice department is mostly honest.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Sounds like modern day gestapo crap.

Unless ABC News Australia is up to something criminal? They got a warrant. Means they did something terribly wrong if you assume your justice department is mostly honest.

I'm super shocked that a place that would institute mandatory gun buy backs would EVER pull these type of shenanigans.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Sounds like modern day gestapo crap.

Unless ABC News Australia is up to something criminal? They got a warrant. Means they did something terribly wrong if you assume your justice department is mostly honest.

Why would they need the power to do any of that stuff? Add, delete, alter?

What, their understanding of technology is so poor, they don't understand what looking at/copying files entails, so they just added all the things you can do to a file to cover their bases?

Originally posted by cdtm
Why would they need the power to do any of that stuff? Add, delete, alter?

Modify, copy, etc. Permissions needed to collect data. Collecting data can be destructive to the "file" state of the system.

Just by copying or accessing data, you've already altered it. If you were to create a hash (say, MD5) of a file, then accessed it, then created another hash, likely, your hashes would not match. In the forensics world, that would be a no-no for a court case. You have to prove the integrity of the evidence is on point to make your court case. If integrity cannot be verified and you are trying to prove guilt in court, then the accused now has the ability to repudiate the accusations.

So a warrant, issued to collect data, needs to be fairly broad when it comes to data.

However, there are far-less data-destructive retrival methods. You're supposed to capture everything in memory and then move onto storage (like a hard drive or SAN). You're supposed to use a bitlocker to get data off the storage medium so you don't alter the original data.

In other words, they are probably amateurs and suck at their job.

Originally posted by cdtm
What, their understanding of technology is so poor, they don't understand what looking at/copying files entails, so they just added all the things you can do to a file to cover their bases?

I should have read further down. Yeah, you answered it perfectly. I didn't need to type all that stuff and you answered it more succinctly than I did.

I'll leave my original stuff there if people are interested in how law enforcement and prosecutors do their thing.

Various sources are saying this has to do with a possible infringement of Whistle Blower Protection, or as some like to call these people who risk themselves to expose wrongdoings as "Leakers", to disparage them.

*shrugs* don't do the crime if you can't do the time

That's the thing, Whistle Blowing isn't a crime, it's protected in many countries.

Neat, then they have nothing to worry about 🙂

Not in Australia Apperantly. Funny how its the Socialist Countries the drop the hammer on the Press.

Originally posted by Surtur
Neat, then they have nothing to worry about 🙂

I see you're purposely being deplorable, but the reality is and it was noted, that always isn't the case with people in power making Whistle Blowing out to be a dishonest behavior and/or a crime.

Originally posted by Robtard
That's the thing, Whistle Blowing isn't a crime, it's protected in many countries.

....and yet you, and many other leftists, support the imprisonment of the true journalist and hero Julian Assange. I'm sure you and all of your leftist brethren would be all too happy to see him imprisoned for the rest of his life or perhaps even get the death penalty because of the fact wikileaks exposed the underhanded shenanigans of your demon queen b*tch Hillary, Donna Brazille, John Podesta, and other low-life's in the DNC.

Originally posted by Surtur
*shrugs* don't do the crime if you can't do the time

Don't agree with this. That's why we have the 4th Amendment: to protect us from government search and seizure for ridiculous excuses.

It's what the dirty Redcoats did to us back during the pre-revolution days.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Don't agree with this. That's why we have the 4th Amendment: to protect us from government search and seizure for ridiculous excuses.

It's what the dirty Redcoats did to us back during the pre-revolution days.

Apparently the OZZIES did NOT learn that Lesson.

Oh them Poor Socialist Kuala Huggers.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Don't agree with this. That's why we have the 4th Amendment: to protect us from government search and seizure for ridiculous excuses.

It's what the dirty Redcoats did to us back during the pre-revolution days.

That was more in response to leaking. If you're from somewhere where it is a crime...don't do it unless you are prepared to face the consequences.

Australia does have Whistle Blower protection laws; that's the point.

Well then no doubt there will be consequences for the raid then.

You seem to still be missing the point.

You'd hope so though, but of course you have people in power who label Whistle Blowers as something awful, like "leakers".

Austrailia is a Lefty Country so I am sure any laws on the books already will be pretty much treated like trash....cause Lefties.