I remember. But John has 3 movies of him hitting his targets 100% of the time wherever he wants to hit them. There's so much more emphasis on John shooting people that I dont think Bourne is a better marksman at all.
I remember Aaron Cross as a better sniper than Bourne, but i actually remember Aaron using guns. When i think of Bourne I think of a letter opener or a rolled up magazine.
Originally posted by Marikina
Bourne takes this. A citywide search and destroy with prep is more of his area of expertise than Wick's.
Is it? Out of the two of them, John is the only one who destroyed an entire organization in a few hours by himself.
And no Broly, Bourne is not surviving those armor piercing rounds from Parabellum.
Let's break this one into skills, to determine the winner.
Weapon's skills: Wick
In an open field with clear sight of each other, I would give Wick the win 9/10.
H2H: Bourne
Bourne's H2H is exceptional. Not saying Wick is bad, but overall, Bourne takes this.
Sorveilance capabilities: Bourne
In this case, finding your target first would be a great advantage. Bourne is one of the finest trackers, the guy is a hound. Intelligence is also one of Bourne's finest abilities.
Tactical abilites: Bourne
One of Bourne's greatest abilities is to always be a step ahead of his opponents. Wick on the other hand is just a juggernaut.
Ability to use your environment (e.g Camouflage): Bourne
Bourne is a master hidder. That, and his amazing tactic abilities allow him to always use his environment to the best.
Conclusion: Given the nature of this thread, I would give Bourne the ultimate win.
Bourne knows he would have to turn this H2H. Given his surveilance and tactical superiority, I think he would lure John to a place his guns won't be that effective.
Once things turn H2H, I'm placing my bets on Bourne.
Originally posted by h1a8
Also Bourne can just snipe him from afar without Wick being aware.
really wouldn't matter as Wick will just get back up...
Originally posted by h1a8
Also Bourne can just snipe him from afar without Wick being aware.
that's all fine and dandy but Wick is a clear superhuman. the man can tank hits from cars and bullets to the chest. it won't even go h2h coz bourne will be dead beforehand
We have never seen Bourne operate at the same level as Wick. Wick is completely ludicrous, Bourne is just slightly Superhuman. I even question hand to hand superiority for Bourne. We've seen Bourne shot beaten up and thrown off a boat. Wick would have cut through them all like a knife through butter.
Bourne wins both rounds. John Wick may be a good killer, but Bourne was trained to be the ultimate omnicompetent assassin. As shown by his ability to shoot guns upside down and nail head shots while freefalling, Bourne is clearly just as if not more accurate than Wick, so he's winning the gunfight, and in terms of H2H, Bourne literally beat a guy who was trained to be an upgraded version of himself, as well as his own mentot, whereas Wick either has to be saved (like with Dafoe) or have mercy shown on him (like Mad Dog and his ninja partner).
One thing to remember with Wick though, there is no break between the 2nd and 3rd films. So, by the time he got to the final boss in the latest film, he had already butchered his way through hundreds of guys, been shot, stabbed, beaten and rammed by cars 3 times, with only very brief periods in between where he could basically change clothes/gear and stitch up some cuts.
But debating Wick is going to become problematic IMO. Because, based on the feats from film 2 and 3, the entire premise/motivation for these films should never have happened. Because if this guy can shrug off impacts with cars, and trash High Table Elites in full armour with automatic weapons, some punks should never have gotten the better of him, sneak attack or not. Based on his durability feats in the later films, he should have shrugged off their hits and beaten them to death long before they got near his dog. Which is one of my main gripes with just how quickly these films have gone over the top. There is rapid feat escalation with almost no thought for continuity/consistency.