Originally posted by abhilegend
😂Retards like you give idiots a bad name.
Do tell us how this is actually Tiger God's power instead of Tchalla's power, retard.Even Galactus literally spell it out as primal aspects of the universe failing but humanity prevailing but no that's too much reading lol
Already explained this sufficiently.
T'Challas power set is enhanced strength and a mastery of combat.
T'challa states in the scene in question that whilst he took a backseat for the Tiger God to get him to the superflow, he was now using his power i.e his combat skills in order to face Logos.
The Tiger God is then shown attacking Logos hand to hand under T Challas control.
Your interpretation contradicts T'Challas canon power-set/abilities and requires readers/forum members to ignore the clear visual depiction of the Tiger God attacking Logos.
My interpretation is aligned to both the statement of T-challa and the visual depiction as well as Galactus' words as T'Challas plan of action i.e gaining the help of the Tiger God and then utilizing his own ability (mastery of combat) to wield it resulted in the defeat of Logos. Something Galactus' own plans failed to do.
No discrepancies or contradictions in my interpretation. Yours leaves gaping holes that fail to reconcile the contradicting canon powers and visual depiction shown in the issue at hand.
When your interpretation requires ignoring an explicit comic book panel, its best to drop the pride and accept your L 🙂
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWthey are funny, I see them as the UK's big cuddly downs syndrome child with full down syndrome strength.
Or against their power to call some rugby/gridiron/whatever the heck that shit game is, football 😂My fav part is that they pretend the rest of the world does it, too.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's from Phoenix Song Echo and she mastered Phoenix power by end of the mini.
Immediately prior to that scene The Adversary had Echo on the ropes, she shook herself free of his control and dispelled his illusions leading to him saying she had mastered the Phoenixs power.
By definition to master is simply to gain control of. Rachel also mastered the Phoenix, but that doesn't equate to her being the most skilled or powerful Phoenix. There are levels. The highest mastery of the Phoenix is the White Phoenix as stated in New X-men 154 where the White Phoenix is heralded as a level attained as a Phoenix via training. 🙂
Originally posted by abhilegend
But let's be honest, nobody will ever fully harness the power of the phoenix in your eyes because that's your argument for decades. Every host is weakened, not at full power or whatever because you decide what counts for phoenix and what doesn't.
Nope. Thats the narrative inadequate debaters such as yourself push when they dont have the evidence or the skillset to credibly counter what I have to say. When you cant out debate resort to discrediting.
That is why you fail and until you improve you wil always fail. Do better 🙁
It is canon that there is a true multiversal Phoenix, that has universal firebird avatars, that also utilizes hosts. It is also canon that not all hosts are equal and whilst hosts can all learn to master the power to a degree, there are levels to this with the White Phoenix being the highest that can be attained. This goes some way into explaining different showings for the Phoenix.
Just like differing showings of Spectre can be explained by whether or not he has the backing of the Presence, or whether Darkseid was manifesting as an avatar or in his full form, or even whether it was Doom or a Doombot.
Whether you like or dislike that there is a canon explanation for varying showings is of no importance or relevance to me. You will deal. 🙂
Originally posted by abhilegend
You can't even read Mr "Tchalla used Tiger God to beat Logos" lol.
His statement about using his power in the battle can be interpreted as just that (given his established power is mastery of combat) and he is then shown on panel controlling the Tiger God to defeat Logos.
But yes, lets ignore the explicit on panel visualization in favour of supporting your agenda. 🙄
Originally posted by GalacticStormYour interpretation contradicts T'Challas canon power-set/abilities and requires readers/forum members to ignore the clear visual depiction of the Tiger God attacking Logos.
Its not my interpretation retard, it's what he says in the ****ing comics. That's what Galactus reiterated.
My interpretation is aligned to both the statement of T-challa and the visual depiction as well as Galactus' words as T'Challas plan of action i.e gaining the help of the Tiger God and then utilizing his own ability (mastery of combat) to wield it resulted in the defeat of Logos. Something Galactus' own plans failed to do.
No, your "interpretation" is to save face for Phoenix after it got stalemated by Tiger God.
No discrepancies or contradictions in my interpretation. Yours leaves gaping holes that fail to reconcile the contradicting canon powers and visual depiction shown in the issue at hand.
When your interpretation requires ignoring an explicit comic book panel, its best to drop the pride and accept your L 🙂
Yeah, you're an idiot who can't understand simple English.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Immediately prior to that scene The Adversary had Echo on the ropes, she shook herself free of his control and dispelled his illusions leading to him saying she had mastered the Phoenixs power.
😂
By definition to master is simply to gain control of. Rachel also mastered the Phoenix, but that doesn't equate to her being the most skilled or powerful Phoenix. There are levels. The highest mastery of the Phoenix is the White Phoenix as stated in New X-men 154 where the White Phoenix is heralded as a level attained as a Phoenix via training. 🙂
Never stated as such anywhere that white phoenix is greatest due to training in New X-men 154.
Jean Grey is supposed to be the strongest phoenix and she died to xorneto.
Nope. Thats the narrative inadequate debaters such as yourself push when they dont have the evidence or the skillset to credibly counter what I have to say. When you cant out debate resort to discrediting.
You can't even read properly, forget about debating. You're a rank amateur just like master was, putting out word files to compensate for his stupidity.
That is why you fail and until you improve you wil always fail. Do better 🙁
It is canon that there is a true multiversal Phoenix, that has universal firebird avatars, that also utilizes hosts. It is also canon that not all hosts are equal and whilst hosts can all learn to master the power to a degree, there are levels to this with the White Phoenix being the highest that can be attained. This goes some way into explaining different showings for the Phoenix.
Nonsense. There's no such canon and marvel has long ago discarded much of the previous phoenix canon.
Just like differing showings of Spectre can be explained by whether or not he has the backing of the Presence, or whether Darkseid was manifesting as an avatar or in his full form, or even whether it was Doom or a Doombot.
Whether you like or dislike that there is a canon explanation for varying showings is of no importance or relevance to me. You will deal. 🙂
Its all in your head.
His statement about using his power in the battle can be interpreted as just that (given his established power is mastery of combat) and he is then shown on panel controlling the Tiger God to defeat Logos.
No, it's not.
But yes, lets ignore the explicit on panel visualization in favour of supporting your agenda. 🙄
As opposed to your agenda for phoenix, eh? I wonder why you didn't respond to this?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Not to mention Black Panther defeated Tiger God in combat to gain his full power.That's how he accessed superflow.
I wonder what the excuse will be now.
Black Panther literally conquered Tiger God in combat to gain its power to access superflow.
Guess Black Panther>Phoenix~Tiger God >Logos?