Does that really matter when you get to this level of power? Aren't some things just assumed even if they aren't flat out shown?
I mean, what is Bruce Almighty's best durability feat?
How about Morgan Freeman's best durability feat as God?
How about the MIB extra-galactic alien's best durability feat?
How about the kid from Twilight Zone's best durability feat?
Originally posted by Mendax
Does that really matter when you get to this level of power? Aren't some things just assumed even if they aren't flat out shown?I mean, what is Bruce Almighty's best durability feat?
How about Morgan Freeman's best durability feat as God?
How about the MIB extra-galactic alien's best durability feat?
How about the kid from Twilight Zone's best durability feat?
I'm not convinced his power levels are so high he can be granted immunity to physical harm. Not when people are saying the Twilight Zone kid can beat him.
Bruce Almighty was also listed as beating him, so he's clearly operating on a higher level of power so why bring him up. The MIB Alien's sheer size would grant it impressive durability.
But let us go with the Twilight Zone kid. We have zero durability feats to suggest he is tougher than your average human. What would stop QS from the X-Men movies from snapping his neck at super speed?
Originally posted by SurturBecause you're the one saying that physical durability still matters for characters on this level, even though the characters that are supposedly superior have NO durability feats to speak of.
I'm not convinced his power levels are so high he can be granted immunity to physical harm. Not when people are saying the Twilight Zone kid can beat him.Bruce Almighty was also listed as beating him, so he's clearly operating on a higher level of power so why bring him up. The MIB Alien's sheer size would grant it impressive durability.
But let us go with the Twilight Zone kid. We have zero durability feats to suggest he is tougher than your average human. What would stop QS from the X-Men movies from snapping his neck at super speed?
You can't just pick and choose. If physical durability matters for one godlike character, then it needs to matter for all godlike characters. Be consistent.
Originally posted by Mendax
Because you're the one saying that physical durability still matters for characters on this level, even though the characters that are supposedly superior have NO durability feats to speak of.You can't just pick and choose. If physical durability matters for one godlike character, then it needs to matter for all godlike characters. Be consistent.
Nah I can totally pick and choose because not all "godlike" characters are created equal.
A bomb strong enough to destroy an entire solar system explodes in the twilight zone kids face, what happens?
Originally posted by SurturBut if physical durability matters for one character at this level, then it MUST matter for all characters at this level. You're the one who brought it up. All I'm asking you to do is stay consistent with your own "logic". You can't use a lack of durability showings to lowball one godlike character, but then act like a lack of durability showings doesn't matter for other godlike characters. Completely illogical.
Nah I can totally pick and choose because not all "godlike" characters are created equal.A bomb strong enough to destroy an entire solar system explodes in the twilight zone kids face, what happens?
And why do you keep using the Twilight Zone kid as a measuring stick and red herring? GENIE is in this thread, and he definitely isn't human.
Originally posted by Mendax
Because you're the one saying that physical durability still matters for characters on this level, even though the characters that are supposedly superior have NO durability feats to speak of.You can't just pick and choose. If physical durability matters for one godlike character, then it needs to matter for all godlike characters. Be consistent.
If a character is human then they only have human level durability by default.
Now the human can change form or alter their durability, but they must consciously do this.
Genie is not a human so we can assume a higher default durability for him (especially since he sometimes appears as a spirit form).
It borders on common sense to suggest the kid can be killed far easier than Genie.
Originally posted by Mendax
But if physical durability matters for one character at this level, then it MUST matter for all characters at this level. You're the one who brought it up. All I'm asking you to do is stay consistent with your own "logic". You can't use a lack of durability showings to lowball one godlike character, but then act like a lack of durability showings doesn't matter for other godlike characters. Completely illogical.And why do you keep using the Twilight Zone kid as a measuring stick and red herring? GENIE is in this thread, and he definitely isn't human.
My logic is that yes a character can be so powerful that physical durability feats aren't needed, but that Genie is not one of these characters.
Also, when you asked me about other characters you brought up the kid and he was by far the weakest, so I figured I'd see what you would say.
Originally posted by MendaxI mean, what is Bruce Almighty's best durability feat?
Well, Bruce with the power of God was literally blindsided and killed by a truck running him over, so not very good.
How about Morgan Freeman's best durability feat as God?
Morgan Freeman has cosmic awareness so shouldn't be as susceptible to being run over by a semi as Bruce, assuming he doesn't default at human durability. It's hard to say really.
How about the MIB extra-galactic alien's best durability feat?
The marble alien is bigger than the universe, lol. An attack that could wipe out the universe would only sever one of its fingers by its size alone.
How about the kid from Twilight Zone's best durability feat?
A valid question. We don't really see any indication that physically he is more than human.
But anyway, I'm not sure how valid Surtur's line of questioning is. I haven't seen the movie and very likely never will.
I will say though that characters who have reality warping power but otherwise seem to be completely human physically shouldn't be assumed to have more than that level of durability. Genie doesn't really fall under that.
https://aliens.fandom.com/wiki/Extra-galactic_alien_(Men_In_Black)
The reflection of the universes?
There is really no way of knowing what the limits of his durability would be. He isn't human by any stretch of the word -- he's a wholly magical Jinn.
That being said, it seems logical to assume that only a being with =/> power would be able to harm Genie... Hence the question posed by the OP. /shrug