Why are people keep saying Avengers wins with no hard evidence?
The Avengers have nothing to answer for when they start using Blink’s abilities, or Pietro’s speed Lava and ice.
The Sentinels were a walking machina, all the Mutants in the world could ever do were to hide.
Also, there’s a minimum a 1000 of those mofos, and since Wanda’s
Now a mutant again with Disney acquiring Fox, gets what happen to Wanda? That’s right, the Sentinels copies her powers and wreck shit even more.
The Sentinels never used Quicksilver's speed, as far as I am aware. Or Blink's portals. Also, that is one serious leap, claiming Wanda is now a mutant simply because of a business deal. If anything, the actual behind the scenes stuff, as well as her inclusion in the next Doctor Strange, heavily implies her powers are outright magic:
https://screenrant.com/marvel-retcon-scarlet-witch-doctor-strange-2/
Originally posted by SquallX
Why are people keep saying Avengers wins with no hard evidence?The Avengers have nothing to answer for when they start using Blink’s abilities, or Pietro’s speed Lava and ice.
The Sentinels were a walking machina, all the Mutants in the world could ever do were to hide.
Also, there’s a minimum a 1000 of those mofos, and since Wanda’s
Now a mutant again with Disney acquiring Fox, gets what happen to Wanda? That’s right, the Sentinels copies her powers and wreck shit even more.
She's not a mutant. That's not how it works.
They even got retconned to be human mutates in 616.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The Sentinels never used Quicksilver's speed, as far as I am aware. Or Blink's portals. Also, that is one serious leap, claiming Wanda is now a mutant simply because of a business deal. If anything, the actual behind the scenes stuff, as well as her inclusion in the next Doctor Strange, heavily implies her powers are outright magic:https://screenrant.com/marvel-retcon-scarlet-witch-doctor-strange-2/
I believe we will see the House of M version of Wanda in Doctor Strange 2
Originally posted by SquallX
Why are people keep saying Avengers wins with no hard evidence?The Avengers have nothing to answer for when they start using Blink’s abilities, or Pietro’s speed Lava and ice.
The Sentinels were a walking machina, all the Mutants in the world could ever do were to hide.
Also, there’s a minimum a 1000 of those mofos, and since Wanda’s
Now a mutant again with Disney acquiring Fox, gets what happen to Wanda? That’s right, the Sentinels copies her powers and wreck shit even more.
none of the Avengers are mutants though.. Wanda certainly isn't one.. Sentinels lose here .. They have no answer for any of the Endgame Avengers
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
The Sentinels never used Quicksilver's speed, as far as I am aware. Or Blink's portals. Also, that is one serious leap, claiming Wanda is now a mutant simply because of a business deal. If anything, the actual behind the scenes stuff, as well as her inclusion in the next Doctor Strange, heavily implies her powers are outright magic:https://screenrant.com/marvel-retcon-scarlet-witch-doctor-strange-2/
I'm just curious though, are we assuming Sentinels could imitate Fox Quicksilver's speed, but not MCU Quicksilver's?
And are human mutates not going to be copied pretty much the same way as a regular mutant? Like what's the difference genetically?
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Who wins?
Also how many Sentinels are we talking here?
Originally posted by Darth Thor
I'm just curious though, are we assuming Sentinels could imitate Fox Quicksilver's speed, but not MCU Quicksilver's?
Well, one gained their power from the mutant X gene, while the other, until they decide to retcon or expand it, got their powers from a billions of years old space artifact that channels/generates exotic psionic energy. We don't know if MCU Quicksilver's power stems from a single gene, like the Fox version's does, or a number of different changes throughout his genetic makeup.
We can speculate, but at the end of the day, MvF Golden Rule is screen feats only.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, one gained their power from the mutant X gene, while the other, until they decide to retcon or expand it, got their powers from a billions of years old space artifact that channels/generates exotic psionic energy. We don't know if MCU Quicksilver's power stems from a single gene, like the Fox version's does, or a number of different changes throughout his genetic makeup.
Yeah but surely its the end result that counts. Which is that SW and QS genetic makeup was altered/mutated. Not sure why the method their genetic make up being altered would make a difference.
In fact The billions of years old artifact actually resulted in a slower Quicksilver than the Fox mutant version.
Would almost be like saying we know Tobey Spider-Man can lift a car in the Ramai Universe, but he has no Feats of lifting cars in the MCU. An exaggerated example but point is strength is strength, and copying superpowers embedded in a genetically altered human is just that as well.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
We can speculate, but at the end of the day, MvF Golden Rule is screen feats only.
Well technically Screen Feats was just copying powers (embedded in their opponents DNA).
I think the more appropriate rebuttal would be that the Sentinels dont have feats copying heroes as powerful as Scarlett Witch, (we didnt even see if they can copy Fox Quicksilver tbh).
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah but surely its the end result that counts. Which is that SW and QS genetic makeup was altered/mutated. Not sure why the method their genetic make up being altered would make a difference.In fact The billions of years old artifact actually resulted in a slower Quicksilver than the Fox mutant version.
Would almost be like saying we know Tobey Spider-Man can lift a car in the Ramai Universe, but he has no Feats of lifting cars in the MCU. An exaggerated example but point is strength is strength, and copying superpowers embedded in a genetically altered human is just that as well.
Well technically Screen Feats was just copying powers (embedded in their opponents DNA).
I think the more appropriate rebuttal would be that the Sentinels dont have feats copying heroes as powerful as Scarlett Witch, (we didnt even see if they can copy Fox Quicksilver tbh).
You're assuming you know how their powers work. We are never actually told. They are just described as "miracles" and given abilities. Maybe MCU Quicksilver channels extra dimensional energy to boost his speed whenever he uses his powers, hence the kind of aura he has when he is running. We don't know. Which is why the difference in origin matters.
They are shown copying powers with a specific shared genetic origin. It starts getting very close to NLF territory to assume they can replicate any power of any altered human, especially when we don't know the specifics of how said human's powers work. People are free to do so, obviously, but I am going to need a lot more convincing before I jump onboard.