Originally posted by abhilegend
Seriously?Unless you're Havok. Or Black Bolt.
😂
I like how Thanos or Surfer get a pass here.
Yeah, except Alan doesn't has a human body or brain, he is simply green flame given a body.
Vulcan simply broke the link of Eldest. Here is Havok not having much effect on Vulcan.
Oh right, he straight up beat the shit out of Vulcan.
your lowballing proficiency is showing again. so you're saying what? alan will attack at the start with some portion of the power of a...star...? 😂
and if you want to use that thanos showing as typical, then conclude from it that vulcan can beat him by messing with the electricity in his head....i applaud you. i think you're losing it, but i applaud the bold stance. 👆
not sure how ss gets a pass. lol i just said if he attacks with energy i think ss could be in trouble. vulcan CAN be beaten physically (hence the board attack), but it takes someone stronger and better at h2h than black bolt, who was getting his head kicked in physically for most of their fight. vulcan also controlled black bolt's energy, though he didn't get a chance to control a full on scream which he reformed from very shortly after receiving.
warlock as quantum magician had some very solid feats (his spell that sealed a fissure parsecs wide by controlling faith energy was pretty ridiculous--which you'll no doubt lowball....) and vulcan controlled his power effortlessly. adam went so far as to call him one of the most powerful beings he'd ever encountered. and he superseded the energy of an entire race in order to cut it off from the eldest--after he effortlessly broke gladiator's arm.
if you and phil think i'm giving him a some sort of no limits control, i'm not seeing it. where did he fail to control someone's energy? he easily dealt with havok on a different occasion, easily wiped out rachel a couple times. and now he is literally facing a guy MADE of energy but you think alan will what--just....blast him with energy? attack him like his power wouldn't affect him or his constructs at all? i confess that i don't get it.
it isn't no limits to think his power would very badly impact a high herald MADE of energy. /shrug
if you and phil think i'm giving him a some sort of no limits control, i'm not seeing it. where did he fail to control someone's energy? he easily dealt with havok on a different occasion, easily wiped out rachel a couple times.Well, amped Havok clearly overpowered his energy control [https://i.imgur.com/5qm0y5S.jpg]...what he does with 'normal' Havok is a different matter entirely. Black Bolt was also able to control his energy [https://imgur.com/a/khStV8S] before he got overwhelmed physically. I'm not saying he is not good -- but I don't agree with how high you put him here. I don't think that he's even the best energy manipulator in the low-herald tier. /shrug
Originally posted by leonidas
your lowballing proficiency is showing again. so you're saying what? alan will attack at the start with some portion of the power of a...star...? 😂
Even Alan's normal blasts can harm him, but why not?
and if you want to use that thanos showing as typical, then conclude from it that vulcan can beat him by messing with the electricity in his head....i applaud you. i think you're losing it, but i applaud the bold stance. 👆
Well, you're the one who said it wouldn't work but it did work.
not sure how ss gets a pass. lol i just said if he attacks with energy i think ss could be in trouble. vulcan CAN be beaten physically (hence the board attack), but it takes someone stronger and better at h2h than black bolt, who was getting his head kicked in physically for most of their fight. vulcan also controlled black bolt's energy, though he didn't get a chance to control a full on scream which he reformed from very shortly after receiving.
Except you said energy attacks aren't effective against him, what was Black Bolt scream again?
Reforming isn't indicative of immunity from energy attacks as you describe.
warlock as quantum magician had some very solid feats (his spell that sealed a fissure parsecs wide by controlling faith energy was pretty ridiculous--which you'll no doubt lowball....)
Why? It was entirely the power of the faith of his followers.
and vulcan controlled his power effortlessly. adam went so far as to call him one of the most powerful beings he'd ever encountered.
Oh no, how can anybody counter THAT?
and he superseded the energy of an entire race in order to cut it off from the eldest--after he effortlessly broke gladiator's arm.
Not effortlessly no, The Eldest beat the shit out of him before he figured it out.
And it was Havok who pointed it out to him before the Eldest was beating him and Gladiator again.
https://readcomiconline.to/Comic/X-Men-Emperor-Vulcan/Issue-4?id=42288
if you and phil think i'm giving him a some sort of no limits control, i'm not seeing it. where did he fail to control someone's energy? he easily dealt with havok on a different occasion, easily wiped out rachel a couple times. and now he is literally facing a guy MADE of energy but you think alan will what--just....blast him with energy? attack him like his power wouldn't affect him or his constructs at all? i confess that i don't get it.
Havok and Rachel harmed him enough with their energy blasts, it's not controlling the power, it's your assertion that no energy blasts can take him down.
it isn't no limits to think his power would very badly impact a high herald MADE of energy. /shrug
Well, he has to overcome Alan's will first. Good luck with that.
