Trumps record on Gay rights.

Originally posted by SquallX
Why is that concerning? Obama and Clinton prior to running for the Presidency believed marriage was between a man and woman. Do you actually believed those two actually changed their stances? Of course not, but they had an imagine to portrayed, and they did.

As long as Trump and his cabinet doesn’t discriminate against gays, by writing laws that limit their rights, I could care less.

I’ve also yet to see Trump and his cabinet hurting anyone that happens to be gay.

Besides, I hate Clinton and I've gone in-depth about why several times here. And as for Obama, I believe it's feasable his stance changed on that matter; it really wouldn't be the first time that has happened.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Sorry, the US is a muslim majority nation now? Oh, the world is a Muslim majority world... Oh, Muslim majority nations are relevant to Trumps treatment of Gays... what?

I know, right? Your point is confusing.

Perhaps you could do us a favor and explain Muslims, religion, and minority statuses point you're trying to make. Keep in mind, we are very stupid.

Nobody has yet to provide a single right Trump has taken away from the LGBT community lol.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I know, right? Your point is confusing.

Perhaps you could do us a favor and explain Muslims, religion, and minority statuses point you're trying to make. Keep in mind, we are very stupid.

For example Turkey has a Muslim majority and many minorities including the Kurds etc.

Originally posted by Surtur
Nobody has yet to provide a single right Trump has taken away from the LGBT community lol.

...and they never will because he hasn't taken any away.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Minority doesn't have to be a status, it often is just a numerical qualifier for relative quantity.

For example Turkey has a Muslim majority and many minorities including the Kurds etc.

Right. But your point is still not clear. With this last reply, you've made it to where it is quite clear that it is not okay to paint all US Christians with a broad brush because they clearly do not agree, majorly, on many policies (the reason this is so is because you've pointed out that Muslims vary in views). The infighting between Christians on public policy and religion is a well-known problem in the US and has been for over 200 years. It's part of our History.

Such as:

Anti-Mormon sentiments and hate crimes (which, along with Jews, was the only hate crime uptick in the 2017 hate crime report that was improperly represented)

Anti-Catholic sentiments - this one is a very big one and is probably the greatest source of religious based controversy in the US.

Anti-Biblical Literalists - obvious what this one is

Infighting between evangelicals

Fighting between evangelicals and all other Christian denominations - this one is probably the biggest issue. There is a new Netflix documentary that follows the secret Christian lobbyists that try to manipulate Capitol Hill. It's that bad.

So to point to all US Muslims, call them a minority, and pretend that "Christians" are a large cohesive majority, is just not correct. The most powerful 'religious' group in the US, right now, are atheists or the a-religious. Followed by the Christian Evangelicals. Some would say it is the Jews and they would be right but they get painted with too-broad a brush because there are a ton of secular Jews and get grouped in with the religion.

But the original idea being brought up is a good point to discuss. Some sects of Christians are okay with gay marriage. In fact, a majority are okay with gay marriage. That does not fit the original narrative put forth you indirectly hinted at, of course. Also, I can honestly state that a vast majority of Mormons support secular gay marriage but strongly oppose gay marriage in their churches and temples: the Pew Research does not include this distinction and it should.

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/views-about-same-sex-marriage/

Lol so...we're not gonna get a single right named that Trump has taken away from the LGBT community...are we?

Originally posted by dadudemon
Right. But your point is still not clear. With this last reply, you've made it to where it is quite clear that it is not okay to paint all US Christians with a broad brush because they clearly do not agree, majorly, on many policies (the reason this is so is because you've pointed out that Muslims vary in views). The infighting between Christians on public policy and religion is a well-known problem in the US and has been for over 200 years. It's part of our History.

Such as:

Anti-Mormon sentiments and hate crimes (which, along with Jews, was the only hate crime uptick in the 2017 hate crime report that was improperly represented)

Anti-Catholic sentiments - this one is a very big one and is probably the greatest source of religious based controversy in the US.

Anti-Biblical Literalists - obvious what this one is

Infighting between evangelicals

Fighting between evangelicals and all other Christian denominations - this one is probably the biggest issue. There is a new Netflix documentary that follows the secret Christian lobbyists that try to manipulate Capitol Hill. It's that bad.

So to point to all US Muslims, call them a minority, and pretend that "Christians" are a large cohesive majority, is just not correct. The most powerful 'religious' group in the US, right now, are atheists or the a-religious. Followed by the Christian Evangelicals. Some would say it is the Jews and they would be right but they get painted with too-broad a brush because there are a ton of secular Jews and get grouped in with the religion.

But the original idea being brought up is a good point to discuss. Some sects of Christians are okay with gay marriage. In fact, a majority are okay with gay marriage. That does not fit the original narrative put forth you indirectly hinted at, of course. Also, I can honestly state that a vast majority of Mormons support secular gay marriage but strongly oppose gay marriage in their churches and temples: the Pew Research does not include this distinction and it should.

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/views-about-same-sex-marriage/

Originally posted by Surtur
Nobody has yet to provide a single right Trump has taken away from the LGBT community lol.

I am sorry, I thought this was the "Trump's Record on Gay Rights" thread, not the "Rights Trump Has Taken Away From the LGBT Community" thread.

If you bar for marginalization, oppression, and persecution is a constitutional right that one previously enjoyed being taken away, then you are not in a position to complain about the treatment of any conservative ever.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
I am sorry, I thought this was the "Trump's Record on Gay Rights" thread, not the "Rights Trump Has Taken Away From the LGBT Community" thread.

If you bar for marginalization, oppression, and persecution is a constitutional right that one previously enjoyed being taken away, then you are not in a position to complain about the treatment of any conservative ever.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Right. But your point is still not clear. With this last reply, you've made it to where it is quite clear that it is not okay to paint all US Christians with a broad brush because they clearly do not agree, majorly, on many policies (the reason this is so is because you've pointed out that Muslims vary in views). The infighting between Christians on public policy and religion is a well-known problem in the US and has been for over 200 years. It's part of our History.

Such as:

Anti-Mormon sentiments and hate crimes (which, along with Jews, was the only hate crime uptick in the 2017 hate crime report that was improperly represented)

Anti-Catholic sentiments - this one is a very big one and is probably the greatest source of religious based controversy in the US.

Anti-Biblical Literalists - obvious what this one is

Infighting between evangelicals

Fighting between evangelicals and all other Christian denominations - this one is probably the biggest issue. There is a new Netflix documentary that follows the secret Christian lobbyists that try to manipulate Capitol Hill. It's that bad.

So to point to all US Muslims, call them a minority, and pretend that "Christians" are a large cohesive majority, is just not correct. The most powerful 'religious' group in the US, right now, are atheists or the a-religious. Followed by the Christian Evangelicals. Some would say it is the Jews and they would be right but they get painted with too-broad a brush because there are a ton of secular Jews and get grouped in with the religion.

But the original idea being brought up is a good point to discuss. Some sects of Christians are okay with gay marriage. In fact, a majority are okay with gay marriage. That does not fit the original narrative put forth you indirectly hinted at, of course. Also, I can honestly state that a vast majority of Mormons support secular gay marriage but strongly oppose gay marriage in their churches and temples: the Pew Research does not include this distinction and it should.

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/views-about-same-sex-marriage/

Originally posted by dadudemon
Right. But your point is still not clear. With this last reply, you've made it to where it is quite clear that it is not okay to paint all US Christians with a broad brush because they clearly do not agree, majorly, on many policies (the reason this is so is because you've pointed out that Muslims vary in views). The infighting between Christians on public policy and religion is a well-known problem in the US and has been for over 200 years. It's part of our History.

Such as:

Anti-Mormon sentiments and hate crimes (which, along with Jews, was the only hate crime uptick in the 2017 hate crime report that was improperly represented)

Anti-Catholic sentiments - this one is a very big one and is probably the greatest source of religious based controversy in the US.

Anti-Biblical Literalists - obvious what this one is

Infighting between evangelicals

Fighting between evangelicals and all other Christian denominations - this one is probably the biggest issue. There is a new Netflix documentary that follows the secret Christian lobbyists that try to manipulate Capitol Hill. It's that bad.

So to point to all US Muslims, call them a minority, and pretend that "Christians" are a large cohesive majority, is just not correct. The most powerful 'religious' group in the US, right now, are atheists or the a-religious. Followed by the Christian Evangelicals. Some would say it is the Jews and they would be right but they get painted with too-broad a brush because there are a ton of secular Jews and get grouped in with the religion.

But the original idea being brought up is a good point to discuss. Some sects of Christians are okay with gay marriage. In fact, a majority are okay with gay marriage. That does not fit the original narrative put forth you indirectly hinted at, of course. Also, I can honestly state that a vast majority of Mormons support secular gay marriage but strongly oppose gay marriage in their churches and temples: the Pew Research does not include this distinction and it should.

https://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/views-about-same-sex-marriage/

This is an interesting topic of discussion that I'd like to learn more about.

... Quality I didn't expect from the thread title