Faora vs Wonder Woman

Originally posted by FrothByte
Point is, you keep ignoring Faora's feat of outfighting Superman and the fact that WW has no comparable feat. That feat showed way more skill on Faora's part than WW did beating up four random human thugs.

I wish you'd just man up and either admit that you have no feats to back up your claim or simply admit that you have no idea what h2h skill actually means.

I wish you could grasp what is even being discussed it is like a josh debate.

Originally posted by quanchi112
She never outfought Superman. She hit him a few times and he responded later in the fight. No, I said there was skill involved but he was distracted and not confident. The quality of opponent has nothing to do with skill. You need to understand that and draw a fair comparison but you do not.

I wish you could grasp what is even being discussed it is like a josh debate.

She hit him far more times than he hit her.

And only a complete idiot (you) would say something as stupid as "The quality of opponent has nothing to do with skill."

Of course your opponent's quality is a factor. It's a huge factor. Performing a spinning heel kick on someone who's able to easily tackle you is far harder than doing it on someone who's just standing there looking dumb.

Now, stop dancing around and show me h2h proof from WW that can trump Faora's feats against Superman.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
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They required the entire Olympian Pantheon, the Atlanteans, Men, and a Green Lantern to stop Steppenwolf.

A Kryptonian was all it required to defeat Steppenwolf in the JL. The same Krypyonian who was having trouble with Faora.

Then some people wonder why no one takes them seriously.

Superman was really only having problems with Faora during the first part of the fight. He did ok later on.

Faora still whips WW though. If it were a contest of sexual attractiveness though Diana would win with flying colors lol.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Superman was really only having problems with Faora during the first part of the fight. He did ok later on.

Faora still whips WW though.

He landed some good hits but he never truly dominated her as much as she dominated him initially.

I mean, I do think he would have won against her eventually, just that it wouldn't be due to his skill.

Originally posted by FrothByte
She hit him far more times than he hit her.

And only a complete idiot (you) would say something as stupid as "The quality of opponent has nothing to do with skill."

Of course your opponent's quality is a factor. It's a huge factor. Performing a spinning heel kick on someone who's able to easily tackle you is far harder than doing it on someone who's just standing there looking dumb.

Now, stop dancing around and show me h2h proof from WW that can trump Faora's feats against Superman.

They do not have a thing to do with skill. Batman shows skill against henchmen that does not mean that diminishes the skill just that the difficulty of defeating them is not as high since there are other factors not just skill alone. You are confusing skill with formadibilty. If you are too stupid to continue this rather simplistic concept log out and go shoot your bow and arrow you Neanderthal.

I have already made two comparisons of apples to apple but your obstinence makes a debate nigh impossible.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
They required the entire Olympian Pantheon, the Atlanteans, Men, and a Green Lantern to stop Steppenwolf.

A Kryptonian was all it required to defeat Steppenwolf in the JL. The same Krypyonian who was having trouble with Faora.

Then some people wonder why no one takes them seriously.

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Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
They required the entire Olympian Pantheon, the Atlanteans, Men, and a Green Lantern to stop Steppenwolf.

A Kryptonian was all it required to defeat Steppenwolf in the JL. The same Krypyonian who was having trouble with Faora.

Then some people wonder why no one takes them seriously.

*Kryptonian

Originally posted by FrothByte
He landed some good hits but he never truly dominated her as much as she dominated him initially.

I mean, I do think he would have won against her eventually, just that it wouldn't be due to his skill.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Superman was really only having problems with Faora during the first part of the fight. He did ok later on.

Faora still whips WW though. If it were a contest of sexual attractiveness though Diana would win with flying colors lol.

Still, Faora did way better against Kal than what WW did in JL.

A simple apples to apples comparison is all it's required to answer this thread... But apparantly not everyone in this forum knows how to draw a simple comparison.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Still, Faora did way better against Kal than what WW did in JL.

A simple apples to apples comparison is all it's required to answer this thread... But apparantly not everyone in this knows how to draw a comparison.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Still, Faora did way better against Kal than what WW did in JL.

A simple apples to apples comparison is all it's required to answer this thread... But apparantly not everyone in this forum knows how to draw a simple comparison.

*apparently

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
*apparently

Originally posted by quanchi112
Initially since he was distracted but the advantage doom dissipated. Despite her peer coming to be her aid.

They do not have a thing to do with skill. Batman shows skill against henchmen that does not mean that diminishes the skill just that the difficulty of defeating them is not as high since there are other factors not just skill alone. You are confusing skill with formadibilty. If you are too stupid to continue this rather simplistic concept log out and go shoot your bow and arrow you Neanderthal.

I have already made two comparisons of apples to apple but your obstinence makes a debate nigh impossible.

Ah quan, I understand now. You have no f*cking clue what skill actually is.

Of course it takes more skill to take on someone more formidable than someone who isn't. Are you're telling me that it takes just as much skill to put a toddler in an arm bar as it would to put Brock Lesnar in an armbar?

Anyway, enough derailing from your end. Do you have any actual h2h feats from WW to prove she's more skilled than Faora? Do you even believe she can defeat Faora?

P.S. - what is it with your fixation with bows and arrows?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why is the worst speller? He continues to misspell.

He's a hypocrite, he would slam you for misspelling and he is 10x worse.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So you admit the advantage she initially had dissipated nor did it even less to an injury let alone defeat. Progress.

Nah, I just think that Superman's greater strength and speed, his flight and heat vision, combined with her mask weakness would eventually overcome Faora's skill advantage.

Still, the fact that she managed to school someone that physically superior to her in h2h in their only 1v1 fight is a better h2h feat than we've seen from WW.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Ah quan, I understand now. You have no f*cking clue what skill actually is.

Of course it takes more skill to take on someone more formidable than someone who isn't. Are you're telling me that it takes just as much skill to put a toddler in an arm bar as it would to put Brock Lesnar in an armbar?

Anyway, enough derailing from your end. Do you have any actual h2h feats from WW to prove she's more skilled than Faora? Do you even believe she can defeat Faora?

No.

Ok you concede. Perfect.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It takes other factors not just skill. If this were the case then Hulks fights against more formidable opponents would be proof his of skill. Ridiculous. It is his strength and durability that he relies on which comprise his strength as a fighter not just his hand to hand skill. Just as we clearly see Thor is more agile and skilled than the Hulk he just is not as strong or durable. You ignore the other factors and the other variables.

No.

Ok you concede. Perfect.

So what you're basically saying is that Faora outfighting Superman in pure h2h is not proof of her skill because he's more formidable than her, yet WW beating up 4 random humans is somehow a better feat of skill because they're less formidable than her?

Yeah... only an idiot would buy that argument.

Originally posted by FrothByte
So what you're basically saying is that Faora outfighting Superman in pure h2h is not proof of her skill because he's more formidable than her, yet WW beating up 4 random humans is somehow a better feat of skill because they're less formidable than her?

Yeah... only an idiot would buy that argument.

WW showed more impressive skill on that showing due to Supermans inexperience, fear, and distraction. She had to focus on multiple opponents whereas faora went up against a really shitty Superman without his sole focus on her alone.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Skill, distraction, lack of focus, and inexperience also factor in. Not only skill you mouth breathing loner.

WW showed more impressive skill on that showing due to Supermans inexperience, fear, and distraction. She had to focus on multiple opponents whereas faora went up against a really shitty Superman without his sole focus on her alone.

Answer me straight: Does an opponent's formidability affect how skilled a fighter looks? Yes or no.