Algebra was derived from Islam · Religion Forum

Putinbot1 Restricted

Originally posted by TempAccount
This is something only an inbred Saudi would say. Abbasid cultural enrichment period ended with the Mongol invasion of Baghdad. Ottomans had their own enrichment period.

The Ottomans did not value Science, whilst I take your point about the mongols sacking Baghdad and agree. The Ottomans led a serious period of confusion and isolationism. Agreed they contined some links to Austria, Hungary etc. Printing was the big problem, the Ottomans outlawed it till the 18th century. So yes they made some movement forward but stagnated the already stagnated Muslim world further.

Patient_Leech Perfect Organism

Re: Algebra was derived from Islam

Originally posted by SquallX
Just to be safe, pretty sure the religion did not give us Algebra.

This.

More accurately: Islam (the dogma of religion) actually ended the rational inquiry and intellectual progress of Islam's golden age.

Neil DeGrasse Tyson explains it well... "Revelation replaced investigation..."

YouTube video

There's a moral to the story folks: religion sucks.

Surtur Restricted

The word "algebra" comes from Islam yes lol. From the title of a book written about math.

But no, islam didn't actually "invent" it.

riv6672 Senior Member

Re: Re: Algebra was derived from Islam

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
This.
More accurately: Islam (the dogma of religion) actually ended the rational inquiry and intellectual progress of Islam's golden age.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson explains it well... "Revelation replaced investigation..."
YouTube video
There's a moral to the story folks: religion sucks.

Well, Islam (the one being discussed) does, at any rate.

Putinbot1 Restricted

Originally posted by Surtur
The word "algebra" comes from Islam yes lol. From the title of a book written about math.
But no, islam didn't actually "invent" it.

actually true, however Algorithms on the other hand were far more credible as Al Misri's work. Although he is also called the father of Algebra for the reasons already outlined in this thread.

Lord Lucien Lets all love Lain

Saying something was invented "by Islam" is as retarded a use of language as saying the telescope was "invented by Christianity". A Muslim who speaks Arabic using an Arabic word in the title of his book that contains information on a thing he used/expanded on is no more "derived from Islam" than Archimedes screw was "derived from the Olympians". It was derived from some f*cking guy or a bunch of other guys who liked what that first guy was about. Credit them, not their f*cking religion.

What is it with religious freaks/nationalistic morons/outright xenophobes who need to frame every f*cking thing that has ever happened EVER, to a black-and-white divide between human groups. F*cking tribalistic simpletons.

Putinbot1 Restricted

Originally posted by Patient_Leech
This.
More accurately: Islam (the dogma of religion) actually ended the rational inquiry and intellectual progress of Islam's golden age.
Neil DeGrasse Tyson explains it well... "Revelation replaced investigation..."
YouTube video
There's a moral to the story folks: religion sucks.

It's really dependent who is in charge, if you have one who believes the best way to honour his god is through knowledge and pays money for new books to be translated in gold and others to apply the secrets found therein and gain uses for them it was probably a winner.

Surtur Restricted

Originally posted by Putinbot1
actually true, however Algorithms on the other hand were far more credible as Al Misri's work. Although he is also called the father of Algebra for the reasons already outlined in this thread.

The guy didn't invent algebra lol. It predates that, it goes to ancient babylon.

Putinbot1 Restricted

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Saying something was invented "by Islam" is as retarded a use of language as saying the telescope was "invented by Christianity". A Muslim who speaks Arabic using an Arabic word in the title of his book that contains information on a thing he used/expanded on is no more "derived from Islam" than Archimedes screw was "derived from the Olympians". It was derived from some f*cking guy or a bunch of other guys who liked what that first guy was about. Credit them, not their f*cking religion.
What is it with religious freaks/nationalistic morons/outright xenophobes who need to frame every f*cking thing that has ever happened EVER, to a black-and-white divide between human groups. F*cking tribalistic simpletons.

This is very true, however the translation period allowed Al Misri to do this. It truly was the greatest age up until then. Probably, because none of us were there.

Putinbot1 Restricted

Originally posted by Surtur
The guy didn't invent algebra lol. It predates that, it goes to ancient babylon.

No one said he did, Algorithms a stronger case exists for. Algebra itself, not in the form he created no. He needed two things, Greek geometry and the idea of 0 from India. He had both in the same language and this was the translation period beauty. For the first time books were in the same language, hilariously the Ottomans outlawed the printing press.

Lord Lucien Lets all love Lain

Originally posted by Putinbot1
It truly was the greatest age up until then. Probably, because none of us were there.

Wut?

Surtur Restricted

lol.

Putinbot1 Restricted

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Wut?

Exactly. Neil Gaiman does a dream story on Baghdad of that period, and wut is the correct answer.

Robtard Senor Member

Re: Algebra was derived from Islam

Thank you Mohammad.

Lord Lucien Lets all love Lain

Originally posted by Putinbot1
Exactly. Neil Gaiman does a dream story on Baghdad of that period, and wut is the correct answer.

No seriously: wut? I didn't read the whole thread, if you were referencing something else in it.

EDIT: What did he dream? Was it nice?

Putinbot1 Restricted

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
No seriously: wut? I didn't read the whole thread, if you were referencing something else in it.
EDIT: What did he dream? Was it nice?

The truth is wondrous as the translation may have been, we will never know really.

Putinbot1 Restricted

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
No seriously: wut? I didn't read the whole thread, if you were referencing something else in it.
EDIT: What did he dream? Was it nice?

He dreamt Baghdad was wondrous with magic carpets rather than your typical medieval shit hole, which for all it's achievements it was and so was the rest of the world up to about 150 years ago. Remember deodorant only became a thing in the 60's and people bathed once a week till about then too.

Lord Lucien Lets all love Lain

One of the most underappreciated things of the modern world is deodorant. Right behind McNuggets.

Putinbot1 Restricted

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
One of the most underappreciated things of the modern world is deodorant. Right behind McNuggets.

I was in Cuba 2 years ago and I couldn't get any for two days, I was using my girl friend of the time, rather be feminine than stinky.

Surtur Restricted

Muslims invented chicken nuggets back in 750 ad.