Imperiex probe vs Annihilators

Originally posted by carver9
Yep, that Zod.

In that case, I await your scans. Phildo has shown them taking on the entirety of Pokolistan, though.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
FWIW, a random probe shell was used to create the Entropy Aegis.

And it stopped 'Darkseid's best' Omega Effect/Beams (can't recall which exactly).

FWIW.

Molecules are molecules though. Ronans weapon would slay it.

Originally posted by Stoic
Molecules are molecules though. Ronans weapon would slay it.

Seeing as it resists Entropy, that's a high order.

By your logic, Ronan can transmute Odin. He could transmute the entire Multiverse.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
In that case, I await your scans. Phildo has shown them taking on the entirety of Pokolistan, though.

Understandable but that doesnt take away from Zod defeating them though. The scans I have are outdated and I'm getting an error message. Maybe someone else can post it. I know ABHI have the scans because we discussed it before.

Originally posted by carver9
Understandable but that doesnt take away from Zod defeating them though. The scans I have are outdated and I'm getting an error message. Maybe someone else can post it. I know ABHI have the scans because we discussed it before.

So..?

Pokolistan Zod is superior to Any member of the Annihilators.

Originally posted by panthergod
So..?

Pokolistan Zod is superior to Any member of the Annihilators.

Keep thinking that.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Seeing as it resists Entropy, that's a high order.

By your logic, Ronan can transmute Odin. He could transmute the entire Multiverse.

Not really, but by my logic it should be able to as entropy has a different function than what his hammer does.

Originally posted by Stoic
Not really, but by my logic it should be able to as entropy has a different function than what his hammer does.

But your logic is that molecules are molecules.

LT has molecules. Reed took his skin and used it to coat his ship.

So can Ronan transmute his skin into paper?

Originally posted by Stoic
Molecules are molecules though. Ronans weapon would slay it.

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I can understand people who disagree, but honestly Surfer's board does seem like it might be one of those things that are just the right weapon for this job. It has blasted right through some crazy shit before. My memory might be slightly off cause it's been a minute, but in Annihilation I think Firelord and Airwalker were struggling to damage even one of these giant ships in the Annihilation fleet, then as soon as Surfer entered on the scene he destroyed like 4 or 5 of them in a row by just strait up bullrushing through them. He busted strait through vibranium walls to save Nova while still maintaining enough enough speed to grab her and blast through the walls again to escape before an electrical signal could reach a bunch of explosives.

I'm not saying he'd be able to take one out easily or that he's more powerful than everyone/anyone who failed, but it does seem like there's a fair chance he'd be among those that took one out. It's just that his board is really fast, and really tough, and its the kind of thing that artists really like to draw so Surfer's got some decent feats in his history at this kind of thing lol

Originally posted by carver9
Keep thinking that.

He was originally intended to be the PRe-Crisis Superman, and dominated Superman.

So.. yes, FAR above any single member of the Annihilators in raw power and formidability.

Originally posted by panthergod
He was originally intended to be the PRe-Crisis Superman, and dominated Superman.

So.. yes, FAR above any single member of the Annihilators in raw power and formidability.

Nope.

Annihilators mainly becuz of Surfer

Originally posted by panthergod
So..?

Pokolistan Zod is superior to Any member of the Annihilators.

BY a large margin, that Zod is trans level

Originally posted by carver9
Understandable but that doesnt take away from Zod defeating them though. The scans I have are outdated and I'm getting an error message. Maybe someone else can post it. I know ABHI have the scans because we discussed it before.

Still waiting.

And why is Carver using that Zod to discredit OWAW? Lol

He broke Superman's jaw and supposedly defeated multiple probes. That's a skyfather+ right there.

I recall he kept Bizarro as a pet punching bag, iirc.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But your logic is that molecules are molecules.

LT has molecules. Reed took his skin and used it to coat his ship.

So can Ronan transmute his skin into paper?

Never saw him do that, but we do know that the Probes were not impossible to destroy, even though you're trying your best to paint them that way. If Arthur can destroy one, why couldn't Ronan?

Because Arthur dealt magical piercing damage using the trident of Poseidon, which pretty sure Ronan doesn't have?

And can you give any reasons why total molecular control would absolutely fail against the Probes? Or am I completely wrong about the Universal Weapon?