It's not even about that, though. Saying "It's your fault for not getting that mole checked" isn't the point.
But that seems to be what everyone hears. You point out the mole may be melanoma to one who never got it checked, you're blaming a cancer victim. Forget about everyone else who may hear advice of getting a mole checked out, have a biopsy, and not become a victim.
Or that's how the logic seems to me.
I should be more clear.
The girl is responsible for her decision to get into the car with a stranger. No one else made that choice for her. Now, didn't she know better? Was she naive? Did her parents ever teach her this was bad (this possibly raising parental responsibility issues)? Did a friend of hers do it and all was fine?
I don't know. All I know is she made a decision and it cost her dearly. But it's not her fault that she's dead. That blame lies with her killer, for he too made a choice, and the final responsibility for his decision rests with no one but him.
Originally posted by Mindship
I should be more clear.The girl is responsible for her decision to get into the car with a stranger. No one else made that choice for her. Now, didn't she know better? Was she naive? Did her parents ever teach her this was bad (this possibly raising parental responsibility issues)? Did a friend of hers do it and all was fine?
I don't know. All I know is she made a decision and it cost her dearly. But it's not her fault that she's dead. That blame lies with her killer, for he too made a choice, and the final responsibility for his decision rests with no one but him.
Agree.
I remember when I first came to the US, we were watching this story of this boy that was kidnapped and killed, I think his name was Ricky-don’t quote me on the name, it was a while back-anyway my dad looked at me and told me in no circumstances should I ever get in a car with strangers. Even if they happen to know my name.
Not only did my dad infused some sort of responsibility on my shoulders, he also made sure this goes double for my little sister. It was my job to watch out for her. That’s why as I grew up and when my little sister were with me outside, I always made sure to hold her hand.
In this day and age, responsibility it would seem have become an archaic thing.
Originally posted by Mindship
I should be more clear.The girl is responsible for her decision to get into the car with a stranger. No one else made that choice for her. Now, didn't she know better? Was she naive? Did her parents ever teach her this was bad (this possibly raising parental responsibility issues)? Did a friend of hers do it and all was fine?
I don't know. All I know is she made a decision and it cost her dearly. But it's not her fault that she's dead. That blame lies with her killer, for he too made a choice, and the final responsibility for his decision rests with no one but him.
I feel like if you're 15 you shouldn't have to have been specifically told by your parents not to get in a car with a stranger. Not unless they've kept you locked up in a room for your entire life and isolated from the world. There should be certain things you just pick up.
This doesn't mean her parents aren't shitty, I don't know, but I don't think you can blame them.
Originally posted by SurturAs I used to tell parents, by high school age, students are responsible for their decisions (eg, skipping class, striking another student). Based on my experience, I agree, generally you don't blame the parents (although home life is not without its influence).
I feel like if you're 15 you shouldn't have to have been specifically told by your parents not to get in a car with a stranger. Not unless they've kept you locked up in a room for your entire life and isolated from the world. There should be certain things you just pick up.This doesn't mean her parents aren't shitty, I don't know, but I don't think you can blame them.
As SquallX related, typically parents warn their children of stranger danger early on (I know I did, as I was taught). Offhand, I would think her parents warned her, too. Unfortunately, now, we can only wonder as to why the girl made that decision, what her contextual thinking was.
She didn't victim blame imo.
Ecaterina Andonescu, Education Minister
What She Said:
“Still, my parents taught me not to get in a car with a stranger," she said in a talk show at Antena 3
"For example, Alexandra – I looked into it at the School Inspectorate – was going to school, she had a (transport) subscription."
"What determined her to hitchhike?"
"I think that we should, at the beginning of the school year, introduce a child protection system in all schools and teach them to protect themselves, to stay away from such situations."
"I learned this at home... I think that these things should also be repeated at school."
Viorica Dăncilă The Prime Minister reacted and decided on Friday to dismiss Ecaterina Andronescu The Education Minister “for deeply wrong statements made recently in a TV show."
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It looks to me like Ecaterina was saying she wants to do more, y'know like she wants to teach kids street knowledge in school.
She identified a reasonable line of enqiry
There was a valid travel pass which does not appear to have been used, What determined her to hitchhike and not make use of the pre paid travel pass
Was it lost? Perhaps they could roll it out as a mobile app or they could make it so it's okay to travel if you don't have a pass but look under 18 etc.
Her first quoted statement is reasonable. Her parent's taught her not to get in a car with a stranger when she was a child herself in the 50s / 60s
Still valid for 2019.