Lobo vs Immortal Hulk

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Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Whenever Lobo goes up against a mainstream character it's extremely close

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Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
"Not sure if you guys are actually basking in the glory of Lobo being able to beat the Hulk, but such thoughts are foolish as phuck. Whenever Lobo goes up against a mainstream character it's extremely close, and Lobo isn't beating a guy that fractured Thor's face with one punch, or casually overpowered Jane Thor, and Hercules. "

^That's WHAT i was referring to.

Which was mid convo about Stargrave.

I note that you missed part of that post too lol.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
I can see why.

It's one thing to gradually mine neutron star material over an unknown period of time. It's an entirely different thing to throw around an entire neutron star like a child's toy, while injured and lacking any leverage.


IDK man... I can totally see how Lobo's feat would be more impressive at face value because it would definitely require a large amount of explosive force, but actually living on the surface of a neutron star is a crazy feat because when you're functioning under gravity that high EVERYTHING is a strength/durability feat. It should probably still be ignored though because it's so far beyond anything ever shown by the Mindless Ones.

Diesldude Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
IDK man... I can totally see how Lobo's feat would be more impressive at face value because it would definitely require a large amount of explosive force, but actually living on the surface of a neutron star is a crazy feat because when you're functioning under gravity that high EVERYTHING is a strength/durability feat. It should probably still be ignored though because it's so far beyond anything ever shown by the Mindless Ones.
it definitely is an impressive feat. I hope H1 can provide the calculations, but I think Withstanding an objects gravity requires less strength than moving or lifting that object.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|
Originally posted by darthgoober
IDK man... I can totally see how Lobo's feat would be more impressive at face value because it would definitely require a large amount of explosive force, but actually living on the surface of a neutron star is a crazy feat because when you're functioning under gravity that high EVERYTHING is a strength/durability feat. It should probably still be ignored though because it's so far beyond anything ever shown by the Mindless Ones.
Oh I don't disagree that it's a great feat for the Mindless Ones. However, I emphasized the lifting/throwing part of it because this entire discussion all goes back to this initial post:
Originally posted by Stoic
The Hulk can lift planets. What's a city? Lobo is about as strong as Hercules, which means he runs below the Hulk.
Diesldude Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Being durable enough to survive on a neutron star means.....nothing here, lmao.
exactly.

Plus not only did lobo withstand the gravity of an object with solar mass he pulled it as well.

Philosophía "The devil made me do it"

Originally posted by Diesldude
it definitely is an impressive feat. I hope H1 can provide the calculations, but I think Withstanding an objects gravity requires less strength than moving or lifting that object.
Compared to standing on a neutron star, moving it is literally -- and I do mean literally -- trillions upon trillions of degrees removed in terms of strength.

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It's like an inhabitant of the Moon being super impressed at how Carver is able to work on the mines on Earth, working under the super high gravity of our planet....

Then Galan comes and literally throws the Earth around.

SquallX Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's like an inhabitant of the Moon being super impressed at how Carver is able to work on the mines on Earth, working under the super high gravity of our planet....

Then Galan comes and literally throws the Earth around.

😆 ****ing smart ass

AlbertoJohnAvil Restricted

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Which was mid convo about Stargrave.

I note that you missed part of that post too lol.

anybody with common sense knew what I meant

darthgoober Senior Member

I don't think you guys get it. It's not about the Mindless Ones themselves being more impressive than Lobo, it's about just how powerful someone would have to be to knock around/cause damage to/take punches from a Mindless One...

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Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't think you guys get it. It's not about the Mindless Ones themselves being more impressive than Lobo, it's about just how powerful someone would have to be to knock around/cause damage to/take punches from a Mindless One...

We all know what Carve was angling for. WBH destroyed them all etc etc.

But ABC logic doesn't work.

ShadowFyre Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We all know what Carve was angling for. WBH destroyed them all etc etc.

But ABC logic doesn't work.

We use logic here?

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Originally posted by ShadowFyre
We use logic here?

Not the way Carv and Stoic are using it, no.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We all know what Carve was angling for. WBH destroyed them all etc etc.

But ABC logic doesn't work.


It wouldn't work, except for the scan. Mindless One's are typically left vague and are magical so it's easy to ignore that kind of thing. But in carvs scan they're pretty specific in attributing the neutron star thing specifically to things like strength and durability. It'a not a situation where there's context in play that's being ignored, and if there's no ignoring of context then there's nothing wrong with ABC logic.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's irrelevant and should totally be ignored as a one off error that ignores history, but it would be staggering if the implications were simply taken at face value. I mean guys like Supes and Surfer can handle things like neutron stars sure, but I have a hard time picturing even them working/living on the surface of one indefinitely.

Galan007 |Quantum Observer|

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't think you guys get it. It's not about the Mindless Ones themselves being more impressive than Lobo, it's about just how powerful someone would have to be to knock around/cause damage to/take punches from a Mindless One...
Slippery slope, given the number of 'lower level' characters who have soaked hits from the Mindless Ones just fine.

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And lower level characters who have caused damage to Mindless Ones

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by Galan007
Slippery slope, given the number of 'lower level' characters who have soaked hits from the Mindless Ones just fine.

I know, that's why I said it should be ignored. But people ought to at least be willing to throw carv a bone and admit that it's being ignored because the implications are actually TOO impressive lol

I mean, yes it's bad writing. But it is the exact kind of scan carv needs.

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

Originally posted by darthgoober
I know, that's why I said it should be ignored. But people ought to at least be willing to throw carv a bone and admit that it's being ignored because the implications are actually TOO impressive lol

I mean, yes it's bad writing. But it is the exact kind of thing carv needs.

It's being ignored because it's bad writing, not because it's too impressive.

I mean, there's a whole section on their respect thread of people who have damaged them, lol.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's being ignored because it's bad writing, not because it's too impressive.

I mean, there's a whole section on their respect thread of people who have damaged them, lol.


It's bad writing BECAUSE it's too impressive. It's bad writing the same way it would be bad writing for Spidey to throw a mountain into space with no apparent power up.