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Kingpin is better IMO in that regard. Though, to be fair to Walt, his plan was never to build a 20-year drug empire or something similar, so he had different priorities than most people in that life do. His aim was maximizing profits in the shortest amount of time, because of his illness. And when things happened that he felt compromised that priority, he didn't always think things through before he acted.
I think if he wasn't sick and had planned a more long-term game from the start, things could have turned out differently. Then again, if it wasn't for the cancer giving him the kick up the butt he got, he might never have done anything.
Originally posted by cdtm
If Walter White had a clue, his empire never would have crumbled.Fisk owned the underworld, because he wasn't so incompetent to shoot his right hand man over a petty argument, or any other stupid shit he did.
He'd walk all over Walt in witty repartee, too.
Your opinion is again garbage as per the usual, you incompetent alcoholic.
Walter was a force of nature and a human bomb. He would seize Fisk within his crosshairs and obliterate him with meticulous precision.
Who is the better character? Walter White by a country mile. He's easily one of the best TV characters of all time. MCU Kingpin is cool and all, but Daredevil doesn't have close to the level of writing quality that Breaking Bad does.
Who's the better criminal mastermind? Now that's a more interesting question.
On the surface, you would assume Kingpin, but what we see of Fisk, he's far more impulsive and emotional than Walter is. He attacks people for no reason, and mostly gets by on his reputation. Walter however started from absolutely nothing and ended up becoming the top of the Albuquerque underworld.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Who is the better character? Walter White by a country mile. He's easily one of the best TV characters of all time. MCU Kingpin is cool and all, but Daredevil doesn't have close to the level of writing quality that Breaking Bad does.Who's the better criminal mastermind? Now that's a more interesting question.
On the surface, you would assume Kingpin, but what we see of Fisk, he's far more impulsive and emotional than Walter is. He attacks people for no reason, and mostly gets by on his reputation. Walter however started from absolutely nothing and ended up becoming the top of the Albuquerque underworld.
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Walter got drunk at the dinner party at Hank’s house and kept dropping not-so-subtle hints about who the real Heisenberg might be even though the case was deemed “closed”. Walt didn’t want Gale, the chemist who Jesse murdered, to get credit as the criminal genius mastermind.
Fisk would never get so cocky.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
I suppose you can look at it that way. But at the same time, Walt destroyed him over the seasons. Seriously, compare him in S1 and S5. Being around Heisenberg broke him as a person. Because there were also times when he wanted out, but Walt dragged him back in.
That's why, I don't get Walt's obsession with Jesse. Everything Walt made he made it himself... Jesse wasn't really an asset.
I think Walt trully loved him, like a son. He wanted to help him, but Jesse just didn't learn to appreciate that.
I think Gus was right when he told Walt that he was bad for business.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
That's why, I don't get Walt's obsession with Jesse. Everything Walt made he made it himself... Jesse wasn't really an asset.I think Walt trully loved him, like a son. He wanted to help him, but Jesse just didn't learn to appreciate that.
I think Gus was right when he told Walt that he was bad for business.
Walter was trying to convince *himself* that he loved Jesse like a son, but Jesse knew early on that wasn't true. Jesse was just a pawn in Walter's schemes, to be used and abused at will.
Walter was trying to have it both ways. He wanted to be a loving family man and also a crime lord, but he enjoyed being a crime lord more.
Originally posted by Dr Will Hatch
Walter was trying to convince *himself* that he loved Jesse like a son, but Jesse knew early on that wasn't true. Jesse was just a pawn in Walter's schemes, to be used and abused at will.Walter was trying to have it both ways. He wanted to be a loving family man and also a crime lord, but he enjoyed being a crime lord more.
Used him how though!? I mean, Gale was certainly doing a better job and without making all the trouble Jesse made.
Jesse was a rock in Walter's shoe throughout the 5 seasons.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I think Fisk had the evil side advantage. The guy loved no one and therefore was relentless and flawless... It was until he met Vanessa that he turned weak.. Heisenberg always had his family and friends to refrain him.
You’re always wrong.
Walt didn’t give two craps about Jesse.