phantom stranger vs guardians

starts with ganthet. but he can call on other guardians one at a time as needed. can ganthet take him alone? how many guardians would he need to call on if he needed help....? mmm

I think Stranger is intrinsically above them.

Stranger fluctuates alot. Ganthet on average.

i was thinking he would probably beat ganthet on average but i don't think he could take more than 2, assuming they don't go full fodder mode.

Stranger wins

Stranger.

Originally posted by leonidas
i was thinking he would probably beat ganthet on average but i don't think he could take more than 2, assuming they don't go full fodder mode.

Stranger, assuming it's the most recent version.

Before the Presence intervened, he was stalemating Spectre in a battle that would have destroyed all creation.

but the most recent one was trapped easily by nabu, who was beaten easily with only a portion of mordru's powers. sooo, mordru>>nabu>>ps/spectre? but then in the other thread, abhi is saying oww superman and dd>>>mordru. sooooooo......

i dunno. all these guys fluctuate all over the place and are seemingly only as powerful as the plot device dictates. which is fine, i guess, but the fluctuations in power with these guys seems.....really, really big imo. i feel like the writers themselves don't have much a handle on whereabouts these guys all fit relative to each other and other 'cosmic' entities.

Mordru is an entirely different beast. Besides, Constantine in that very book said that there are only a handful of beings that can challenge the Stranger.

Also, Batman said there are 50 something beings on earth that can turn the universe inside out. Insane.

Originally posted by leonidas
but the most recent one was trapped easily by nabu, who was beaten easily with only a portion of mordru's powers. sooo, mordru>>nabu>>ps/spectre? but then in the other thread, abhi is saying oww superman and dd>>>mordru. sooooooo......

i dunno. all these guys fluctuate all over the place and are seemingly only as powerful as the plot device dictates. which is fine, i guess, but the fluctuations in power with these guys seems.....really, really big imo. i feel like the writers themselves don't have much a handle on whereabouts these guys all fit relative to each other and other 'cosmic' entities.

I'm getting a distinct vibe here, dunno what's up with you.

Not sure what the vibe is. Just seems like it’s hard to firmly gauge these guys in terms of power based on abc logic. /shrug

Does the chain of logic not hold regarding doomsday and superman iyo? Didn’t black lightning destroy a probe? You’re gonna say something about some hidden agenda. Lol. I TRULY don’t care about that. I just find your reasoning inconsistent as regards this topic. But maybe imperiex really IS a far above mordru as you think. I honestly don’t know and find many of these characters I’ve placed in threads very difficult to gauge with certainty. Which is why I’ve been posting threads about them. No agenda—legit curiosity.

Originally posted by leonidas
Not sure what the vibe is. Just seems like it’s hard to firmly gauge these guys in terms of power based on abc logic. /shrug

Originally posted by leonidas
Does the chain of logic not hold regarding doomsday and superman iyo? Didn’t black lightning destroy a probe? You’re gonna say something about some hidden agenda. Lol. I TRULY don’t care about that. I just find your reasoning inconsistent as regards this topic. But maybe imperiex really IS a far above mordru as you think. I honestly don’t know and find many of these characters I’ve placed in threads very difficult to gauge with certainty. Which is why I’ve been posting threads about them. No agenda—legit curiosity.

Sure leo.