The Rise of the Trump Defense. Oh Trumpers! Oh my!

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The Rise of the Trump Defense. Oh Trumpers! Oh my!

“The President of the United States Says It’s Okay”: The Rise of the Trump Defense

Attorneys for Cesar Sayoc invoked the president’s words to help explain their client’s actions, part of a growing trend in which Trump’s name is surfacing in high-profile cases.

While Donald Trump was denying any culpability for inspiring the mass shooter in El Paso, Texas, attorneys for another right-wing terrorist, Cesar Sayoc, were arguing the exact opposite. “In this darkness, Mr. Sayoc found light in Donald J. Trump,” attorneys for Sayoc wrote in a court filing for the defendant, who was sentenced Monday after pleading guilty to sending pipe bombs to prominent critics of the president. “He became obsessed with ‘attacks’ from those he perceived as Trump’s enemies” and “decided to act out—to send a message, to try to intimidate and scare Trump’s perceived enemies.” A Trump “superfan,” Sayoc “began to consider Democrats as not just dangerous in theory, but imminently and seriously dangerous to his personal safety.”

The Trump Defense, such as it was, did not convince Judge Jed S. Rakoff. In explaining his decision to give Sayoc 20 years behind bars, as opposed to the lifetime sentence recommended by prosecutors, Rakoff said Sayoc’s support for Trump was “something of a sideshow.” Design flaws in Sayoc’s pipe bombs convinced him that Sayoc had intended to scare, not kill his targets. But the Sayoc case is part of a broader pattern of attorneys invoking President Trump’s influence and rhetoric in defense of their clients in criminal cases.

There have been at least a half-dozen such cases in the media over the last three years. In another high-profile case last November, an attorney representing Patrick Eugene Stein, one of three men convicted of plotting to bomb Somali refugees, argued that his client should receive a more lenient sentence because he was inspired by then-candidate Trump. “The court cannot ignore the circumstances of one of the most rhetorically mold-breaking, violent, awful, hateful, and contentious presidential elections in modern history,” attorneys Jim Pratt and Michael Shultz wrote. Similar defenses have been used in other cases that haven’t garnered the same level of media attention, as well: an attorney for a Los Angeles man who posted anti-Muslim threats on a mosque’s Facebook page argued that his client used “similar language and expressing similar views” to “campaign statements from then-candidate Donald Trump”; when a Florida man similarly made a threatening call to a mosque, his attorney noted the “very distinctly political climate” and cited the Trump travel ban; when a Penn State University student threatened to “put a bullet” in an Indian man on campus, his attorney argued he was motivated by “a love of country” and cited Trump “running for president of the United States saying that, ‘We’ve got to check people out more closely.’”

The Trump Defense has only become more salient since the president took office. Last year, a man accused of groping a woman on a flight told FBI agents, “the president of the United States says it’s okay to grab women by their private parts.” Earlier this week, when a man who suffers from a traumatic brain injury assaulted a child for not removing his hat during the national anthem, his attorney argued, “His commander in chief is telling people that if they kneel, they should be fired, or if they burn a flag, they should be punished,” so he didn’t recognize the assault as a crime.

The El Paso shooting has amplified a long-festering national conversation about the real-world impact of the president’s rhetoric. The suspect in the massacre, a 21-year-old white man, is believed to have authored a manifesto posted online shortly before the shooting that claimed he was trying to prevent a “Hispanic invasion of Texas”—rhetoric that is virtually indistinguishable from what Trump has said on Twitter and during campaign rallies. -snip

I don't recall this happening with Obama, Bush or Clinton's supporters committing crimes.

It should also be noted that the MAGAbomber receiving 20 years was a bit on the light-side, considering the severity and number of Federal and state crimes he committed. So the Trump-Defense might have factored in lowering his sentencing.

Yep the constant vilification of Trump in the media has given scumbags a convenient excuse for their shitty behavior. Especially because they know the gullible will latch onto any story where someone does something wrong and blames Trump.

Giggle.

Originally posted by Surtur
Yep the constant vilification of Trump in the media has given scumbags a convenient excuse for their shitty behavior. Especially because they know the gullible will latch onto any story where someone does something wrong and blames Trump.

Giggle.

^ Trump's always the poor victim...

^Speaking of the gullible...

Army veteran allegedly choke slams teenager for not removing hat during anthem, says Trump wanted him to do it

MISSOULA, Mont. — An Army veteran charged with assaulting a 13-year-old boy who refused to remove his hat during the national anthem believed he was doing what President Donald Trump wanted him to do, his attorney said. -snip

And another unhinged Trumper just following Trump's orders. But let's pretend Trump never attached people over what they do when the National Anthem is played.

Originally posted by Robtard
Army veteran allegedly choke slams teenager for not removing hat during anthem, says Trump wanted him to do it

MISSOULA, Mont. — An Army veteran charged with assaulting a 13-year-old boy who refused to remove his hat during the national anthem believed he was doing what President Donald Trump wanted him to do, his attorney said. -snip

And another unhinged Trumper just following Trump's orders. But let's pretend Trump never attached people over what they do when the National Anthem is played.

Link me to Trump ordering people to those who fail to remove their hat for the national anthem

Originally posted by Surtur
Yep the constant vilification of Trump in the media has given scumbags a convenient excuse for their shitty behavior. Especially because they know the gullible will latch onto any story where someone does something wrong and blames Trump.

Giggle.

"Bingo." 👆

I also like how the article mentions the El Paso shooter, despite him saying his beliefs predate Trump and saying Trump isn't what inspired him.

Originally posted by Robtard
^ Trump's always the poor victim...

....according to dumbasses like you he's always the one doing the victimizing.

And yeah, let's sit here and pretend that "the squad" isn't always playing the victim card every chance they get. They are always such poor, innocent little victims, aren't they? 👆

Originally posted by Robtard
^ Trump's always the poor victim...

Lefties are always such poor victims. 🙁

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
....according to dumbasses like you he's always the one doing the victimizing.

And yeah, let's sit here and pretend that "the squad" isn't always playing the victim card every chance they get. They are always such poor, innocent little victims, aren't they? 👆

Remember: it's okay to cry about Trumps behavior all day and night, but if you so as much as mention the behavior towards him suddenly it is "playing the victim".

Originally posted by Surtur
Remember: it's okay to cry about Trumps behavior all day and night, but if you so as much as mention the behavior towards him suddenly it is "playing the victim".

"Bingo." 👆

Trumpers trying to pretend that Obama, Bush and Clinton were not vilified either. Lolz.

Just putting it out there but why didn't Trump given his history of litigation sue over being accused twice of raping a 13 year old girl. Not saying he did, just seems out of character.

I have seen Leftists make the Claim that 13 is Legal so. Why Bother with it!?

'No Blame?' ABC News finds 36 cases invoking 'Trump' in connection with violence, threats, alleged assaults.'

President Donald Trump has repeatedly refused to accept any responsibility for inciting violence in American communities, dismissing critics who have pointed to his rhetoric as a potential source of inspiration for some citizens acting on even long-held beliefs of bigotry and hate.

"I think my rhetoric brings people together," he said last week, four days after a 21-year-old allegedly posted an anti-immigrant screed online and then allegedly opened fire at a Walmart in El Paso, Texas, killing 22 and injuring dozens of others.

But a nationwide review conducted by ABC News has identified at least 36 criminal cases where Trump was invoked in direct connection with violent acts, threats of violence or allegations of assault. -snip

Wow, 36. We're going to have a lot more of these, imo.

Don't be surprised if the El Paso murderer's lawyer invokes the Trump-Defense for his client.

I wonder how many of those "Cases" will be Dropped for Lack of Evidence?

I bet a WHOLE LOT OF THEM!

Cause INVOKING a Case Is Not a Declaration of GUILT!

Sure it is in Robbie's Vile Little World.

Oh well... On to the Next NOTHING BURGER!

Topical:

"In 29 of the 36 cases, the perpetrator or suspect was supportive of the president, while in seven cases the person was opposed to Trump" -snip

29 out of 36 wold be a vast "majority", as some people argue what that word means.

Originally posted by Robtard
Topical:

"In 29 of the 36 cases, the perpetrator or suspect was supportive of the president, while in seven cases the person was opposed to Trump" -snip

29 out of 36 wold be a vast "majority", as some people argue what that word means.


That'd be a bit over 80%.

Now, be honest Rob, we can't hold Trump accountable for what some of his crazed fans do, otherwise a lot of celebrities would be out of a job. However, I think it's fairly obvious that Donald Trump's general rhetoric definitely sparks something in unhinged individuals.