Originally posted by BrolyBlackD. Thor is such a huge troll I doubt he even saw the films more than once. He probably cannot even remember who Cull is tbh. He is just a casual fan.
Cull had Ironman and Spiderman on the ropes and they had no answer for him without the mages help.He wiped the floor with Hulkbuster
Juggernaugt couldnt even put down Colossus.
Cull would end him
Originally posted by Darth ThorPractically everyone says Cull wins yet you claimed it is a stomp against him. Just because they do not directly say you are an idiot trust me they are all thinking it.
Of course my post can be taken seriously. By all the posters here who take me seriously. Unlike you im not known as the forum troll.
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Address my points if you would
Sure.
Originally posted by BrolyBlack
1) Cull had Ironman and Spiderman on the ropes and they had no answer for him without the mages help.2) He wiped the floor with Hulkbuster
3) Juggernaugt couldnt even put down Colossus.
1) We are talking about a guy who absolutely destroyed a motorway bride from the shockwave of his punch ( his fist never actually connected with the bridge). So thats well out of Iron Man and Spider-Mans strength league. And ive not seen any feat from Cull that comes close.
2) Well a few of those Proxima minions had Hulkbuster grounded. So id question how good Banner was with it. Plus It may not have had the same strength without a standard IM suit inside. And didnt have the regeneration abilities Tony used.
That said, Hulkbuster still beat Cull.
3) Colossus was clearly inferior to Juggs. Which is a great feat for him. And its not like Colossus failed to lift a truck or something. We havent seen his strength limitations.
Ironman and Spider-Man would dominate Colossus. Full for his size was extremely nimble.
Sure he has that bridge feat but that didn’t help him in anyway with Colossus.
Juggs was putdown by some electricity. Cull shrugged off Ironmans focus amped beam cannon with no visible damage.
Cull bested Hulkbuster in every way but due to one outlier not based on any strength feat Banner was able to use that rocket arm to launch him into the shield
Hulkbuster in no way bested him physically or in fighting prowess
Originally posted by Darth ThorDude, you are never even supporting your stupidity in this thread. You will not admit you are wrong but argue based off the most disingenuous of points. Cull had IM beat multiple times and was wrecking Hulkbuster armor so to act like he is not a powerhouse makes you so biased you will deny the clear portrayal because you came in here like a dipshit and claimed Juggernaut not only wins but stomps.
By that logic you are biggest twit on the forum..Oh wait... maybe you have a point 😂
You really suck at understanding films.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Sure.1) We are talking about a guy who absolutely destroyed a motorway bride from the shockwave of his punch ( his fist never actually connected with the bridge). So thats well out of Iron Man and Spider-Mans strength league. And ive not seen any feat from Cull that comes close.
2) Well a few of those Proxima minions had Hulkbuster grounded. So id question how good Banner was with it. Plus It may not have had the same strength without a standard IM suit inside. And didnt have the regeneration abilities Tony used.
That said, Hulkbuster still beat Cull.
3) Colossus was clearly inferior to Juggs. Which is a great feat for him. And its not like Colossus failed to lift a truck or something. We havent seen his strength limitations.
Except he never throws a single actual punch of that power in a fight. If he did, he would have knocked Colossus clean through the building they were fighting next to and murdered Cable when he kicked him into a car, shield or not. Yet he never does anything even remotely on that level again. I mean I am normally fine with incorporating high end showings, but only if they are at least somewhat consistent with everything else that is shown. That bridge hit is an outright outlier. As in Supergirl-tier outlier, relative to his other feats.
Also, Hulkbuster did not beat Cull via power. Banner caught him by surprise by having the gauntlet attach to his arm and drag him along the Wakandan energy shield for several dozen meters (the same shield that tanked one of the Outrider drop ships falling on it IIRC). Before that, Cull was wrecking him:
And in terms of actual in-combat striking (this is basically what should have happened to Colossus if Juggs hit him as hard as he hit the bridge):
And that's not how MvF works and you know it. We go by what they have actually successfully done onscreen. Not by what they have not yet tried and failed to do.
The only way Juggs wins is if we solely use the bridge feat and ignore the fact that someone who, purely by actual screen feats, is laughably weaker than people like Iron Man, Spider-Man etc. yet could do things like break his fingers and take his hits in an actual brawl.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Dude, you are never even supporting your stupidity in this thread. You will not admit you are wrong but argue based off the most disingenuous of points. Cull had IM beat multiple times and was wrecking Hulkbuster armor so to act like he is not a powerhouse makes you so biased you will deny the clear portrayal because you came in here like a dipshit and claimed Juggernaut not only wins but stomps.You really suck at understanding films.
Mega triggered lmao
Try an actual rebuttal. That way you can hide your butthurt.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Except he never throws a single actual punch of that power in a fight. If he did, he would have knocked Colossus clean through the building they were fighting next to and murdered Cable when he kicked him into a car, shield or not. Yet he never does anything even remotely on that level again. I mean I am normally fine with incorporating high end showings, but only if they are at least somewhat consistent with everything else that is shown. That bridge hit is an outright outlier. As in Supergirl-tier outlier, relative to his other feats.
No sorry not accepting this logic at all.
The ONLY way to compare different Universe characters is by feats.
Its Deadpool of course you can accept some inconsistencies. They have the First Class X-Men in one scene and the the Origins Deadpool in another.
But thats literally no excuse to ignore his biggest punch in the film. And no not like Supergirl at all, whose consistency changes from episode to episode.
Cables shield and Colossus can be power scaled next to Juggs. Or he may have been toying with Cable and Deadpool. Given he casually ripped Deadpool in two earlier.
MvF rules are On Screen Feats only. The bridge Punch was an actual On Screen Punch. The only legitimate reason to ignore it would be you dont like it.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerThe only way Juggs wins is if we solely use the bridge feat and ignore the fact that someone who, purely by actual screen feats, is laughably weaker than people like Iron Man, Spider-Man etc. yet could do things like break his fingers and take his hits in an actual brawl.
Are we talking about Colossus? Him fighting Juggs so well is a feat. Power scaling is a thing you know, otherwise bringing up Hulkbuster is pointless.
I also see no rebuttal to Banners being a newbie with the Hulkbuster tripping over himself and getting pinned down by Proximas minions.
Also whats Spider-Mans best lifting or punching feat? Because he held off Culls arm.