Fear in America

Started by Surtur3 pages

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
That's true. It's also true that the average American is far more likely to be shot by another average American as opposed to an Islamic extremist terrorist. Who do you think the average American is more fearful of being shot by? In an average year people are more likely to be struck by lightning than killed in an Islamic terror attack. People don't tend to live in fear of that either.

Fear doesn't really care much about logic or statistics.

It's why the propaganda about white supremacists being pushed is wrong.

Nobody listens to Trumps words and thinks "there is a white supremacist behind every corner out to get me!" Nobody. That comes from our darling media. Who don't seem to care what impact their constant rhetoric about white supremacy is having.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
That's true. It's also true that the average American is far more likely to be shot by another average American as opposed to an Islamic extremist terrorist. Who do you think the average American is more fearful of being shot by? In an average year people are more likely to be struck by lightning than killed in an Islamic terror attack. People don't tend to live in fear of that either.

Fear doesn't really care much about logic or statistics.

An Islamic extremist likely wouldn't shoot you at all, but I digress, is this still a legitimate fear in the US? Can't say I think at all about a terror attack TBH, I treat it the way I do lightning.

The Americans are worriers, 9/11 understandably affected them a lot.

Most normal Americans aren't worried about terrorist attacks and after 9/11 most of the worriers would have only worried for a short period of time.

It was the government that stoked unnecessary fears afterwards by telling us dictators had WMD's, etc.

Originally posted by Surtur
Most normal Americans aren't worried about terrorist attacks and after 9/11 most of the worriers would have only worried for a short period of time.

It was the government that stoked unnecessary fears afterwards by telling us dictators had WMD's, etc.

not untrue, I'd actually go further and say the far right, neocons and neoliberals did this globally.

And now we have the far left stoking fears about white supremacy.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
not untrue, I'd actually go further and say the far right, neocons and neoliberals did this globally.

Got an innocent man killed. They ever find those WMD's?

By innocent, I mean relative to government officials:

Saddam's crimes against humanity. Saddam was sentenced to death after being found guilty of crimes against humanity for his role in the 1982 slaughter of 148 Shia villagers in Dujail following an attempt on his life.

I can think of a lot of people who deserve to be hanged, who have much higher body counts directly or indirectly.

God said talk about the good news.
So something good about white people is that they tend to help others.
If I had something to share with black people is that instead of saying lets pray about things as the only response they should involve themselves by helping others physically.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
God said talk about the good news.

Okay: Trump is the president of the United States of America.

Vote for Spider-man

Originally posted by Surtur
It's why the propaganda about white supremacists being pushed is wrong.

Nobody listens to Trumps words and thinks "there is a white supremacist behind every corner out to get me!" Nobody. That comes from our darling media. Who don't seem to care what impact their constant rhetoric about white supremacy is having.

👆

Spot on.

Originally posted by Surtur
Okay: Trump is the president of the United States of America.

😂

Yep, anytime I need to be cheered-up (which honestly isn't all that often; in good spirits most of the time), just reminding myself Trump is president and that psycho b*tch Hillary ain't does it every single time. 👆

Not sure if that cheers me up though quite as much as thinking about all the Trump-hating snowflakes on the left who are constantly outraged over it and delusionally think he's literally Hitler reincarnated. 😂

Originally posted by Surtur
And now we have the far left stoking fears about white supremacy.
oh... they kill a lot more people. Year on year...

Originally posted by Putinbot1
oh... they kill a lot more people. Year on year...

Doesn't change the facts: it is the far left stoking fears about white supremacy.

Even if you want to say they kill more often than any other ideology...considering we have over 330 million people in this country and we had less than 60 people killed last year by white supremacists...it's not a valid fear to stoke.

Originally posted by Surtur
Most normal Americans aren't worried about terrorist attacks and after 9/11 most of the worriers would have only worried for a short period of time.

It was the government that stoked unnecessary fears afterwards by telling us dictators had WMD's, etc.

It's just been a very short period of time since someone deliberately targeted Mexicans in a terrorist attack so I don't think them currently being fearful of attacks is all that unreasonable at the minute.

Pretty sure I remember the same "stoking" of fears after each Islamic extremist attack. But from the right.

Originally posted by Surtur
Doesn't change the facts: it is the far left stoking fears about white supremacy.

Even if you want to say they kill more often than any other ideology...considering we have over 330 million people in this country and we had less than 60 people killed last year by white supremacists...it's not a valid fear to stoke.

You see, the counter propaganda they aren't a problem will just lead to more poor behaviour from people like the Proud Boys.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
You see, the counter propaganda they aren't a problem will just lead to more poor behaviour from people like the Proud Boys.

Could say the same about Antifa.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
It's just been a very short period of time since someone deliberately targeted Mexicans in a terrorist attack so I don't think them currently being fearful of attacks is all that unreasonable at the minute.

This doesn't mean the left needs to add to those fears.

Pretty sure I remember the same "stoking" of fears after each Islamic extremist attack. But from the right.

Yep both sides unnecessarily stoke fears. It's awful.

Originally posted by samhain
An Islamic extremist likely wouldn't shoot you at all.

Odd statement given San Bernardino, Orlando and Fort Hood.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Odd statement given San Bernardino, Orlando and Fort Hood.

It's not the traditional weapon of choice for extremists is what I was getting at. Although if it's not more difficult to make a bomb-vest today than it was 20 years ago then some people aren't really doing their job.