Originally posted by cdtm
Whirly clearly thinks that means they get "off" for their "crimes".Surely unlike him, you're smart enough to see the examples are apples to oranges, considering Rittenhouse was literally chased down and cornered by his "victims".
Apparently you're not smart enough to get my point though.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Another couple of examples:
https://edition.cnn.com/2013/02/06/justice/dc-family-research-council-shooting/index.htmlhttps://www.reuters.com/world/us/wisconsin-anti-abortion-center-targeted-by-arson-police-2022-05-09/
only relevant one was the shooter, even though they were not exactly random in their targeting. trying to pass off arson off as a relevant rebuttal to my point is just silly.
mall shootings, grammar school shootings, subway shooting, public stabbing sprees, etc has almost always been directly linked to far right lunacy, especially since trumpism took hold of that retard cult.
Trump's appeal was hatred. It worked for some of us, it worked for me... I'm over it now but some people still think it's relevant and pretty much got the wrong impression.
It wasn't about hating black people, it was about hating immigration. How stupid can you be to equate black people to immigrants? What the **** did you think white Europeans going to Africa were, tourists?
Re: 8 Dead in Mass Shooting, White Supremacist Shooter in Custody
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Eight people are dead after a gunman entered a supermarket in Buffalo, New York and opened fire Saturday afternoon, law enforcement sources said. The shooter entered the Tops Friendly Market on Jefferson Avenue shortly after 2:30 p.m. and shot at least eight people, those sources said.An eighth person injured in the gunfire was said to be in critical condition. Sources said the suspected gunman entered the store carrying a rifle and wore military-style gear or a type of body armor. Public in the immediate vicinity has been asked to avoid the store while police investigate.
A Buffalo police official at the scene and another source close to law enforcement confirmed the massacre at the supermarket. "It's like walking into a horror movie, but everything is real. It is Armageddon-like," said the police official at the scene. "It is so overwhelming."
One of the deceased was a recently retired Buffalo police officer who was working security at the store, both sources said.
Sources are withholding the retired officer's identity because it could not be determined if his family had yet been notified. As many as five bodies were found in the parking lot, the onsite police official said.
The attack was live-streamed on Twitch, and screenshots from the recording showed horrific scenes, including a woman who is shot in the head as she walks outside the store. In other screenshots, victims can be seen on the floor of the supermarket.
A 106-page online manifesto, believed to have been uploaded by the shooter, explained that he was motivated by a conspiracy theory that white people are being replaced by other races. In the document, he says he is 18 years old and a self-described white supremacist and anti-semite.
^ Came in to post this.
An extension of the "Jews will not replace" nutter garbage views these people have, which we saw in full display at the Unite The Right Rally. But I'm sure some of them are "fine people", or something.
Like I said, it all comes from Mein Kampf because Hitler didn't like black men from French colonies coming into Germany. He then blamed the Jews because of the Rothschild dynasty.
"Jews will not replace us!"
You mean, uncivilised black folk from French colonies are ****ing women you can't ****? And that's the Jews fault? Well, maybe you should get laid.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
only relevant one was the shooter, even though they were not exactly random in their targeting. trying to pass off arson off as a relevant rebuttal to my point is just silly.mall shootings, grammar school shootings, subway shooting, public stabbing sprees, etc has almost always been directly linked to far right lunacy, especially since trumpism took hold of that retard cult.
I wager most mass shootings/stabbings and spree killings in general are not political, but rather tend to be a result of mental illness and a sort of diffuse hatred towards society.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Why is arson not relevant? It can and does kill indiscriminately; you can start a fire, but you can't control it. There's a good reason it's considered a serious crime.I wager most mass shootings/stabbings and spree killings in general are not political, but rather tend to be a result of mental illness and a sort of diffuse hatred towards society.
it's irrelevant because it wasn't an attack on civilians. but have fun with that.
mental illness and politically motivated killings are not even close to mutually exclusive. bad wager
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
it's irrelevant because it wasn't an attack on civilians. but have fun with that.mental illness and politically motivated killings are not even close to mutually exclusive. bad wager
You're the one tying killing to right wing idealogy though.
Clearly, a mentally ill person killing in the name of idealogy does not reflect on all adherents of an idealogy.
But tell us what your position is, if we don't "get it". Are you arguing against right wing idealogy?
Or only those few mentally disturbed people who in no way represent right wing idealogy as a whole?
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
it's irrelevant because it wasn't an attack on civilians. but have fun with that.mental illness and politically motivated killings are not even close to mutually exclusive. bad wager
They're not, but they are not mutually inclusive either. It seems to me that most mass killers are ultimately mentally and/or emotionally disturbed nutjobs.
Originally posted by Bashar Teg
only relevant one was the shooter, even though they were not exactly random in their targeting. trying to pass off arson off as a relevant rebuttal to my point is just silly.mall shootings, grammar school shootings, subway shooting, public stabbing sprees, etc has almost always been directly linked to far right lunacy, especially since trumpism took hold of that retard cult.
Not to mention, Family Research Council and Wisconsin Family Action are both documented hate groups, according to the FBI. So not only were those organizations targeted because they are right wing extremists, but there were no casualties in either incident.
Furthermore, it has not been confirmed who commited the arson at Wisconsin Family Action. For all we know, they did it to themselves to change narrative about the upcoming Supreme Court decision. We know it is the standard operating procedure of conservatives to smear their opponents with false flags.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Why is arson not relevant? It can and does kill indiscriminately; you can start a fire, but you can't control it. There's a good reason it's considered a serious crime.
This arson is not relevant, because we do not know who did it.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I wager most mass shootings/stabbings and spree killings in general are not political, but rather tend to be a result of mental illness and a sort of diffuse hatred towards society.
This mass shooting was political. The shooter said so in his 180-page White Nationalist manifesto.
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
But it was an attack on civilians? I mean, you could argue that the arsonists knew that the office was empty, but we don't know that and there sure as hell was no way for the arsonists to know that the fire would not spread out of control.They're not, but they are not mutually inclusive either. It seems to me that most mass killers are ultimately mentally and/or emotionally disturbed nutjobs.
Post an example of one of those psychology stable mass shooters so that I may compare and learn the difference