Idaho must pay for transgender inmate's surgery, court rules

Originally posted by Robtard
1) Trumpers =/= Trump. This is just a fact.

2) You agreed with the "most Trumpers are racist" comment, why I laughed; am laughing. Too good.

Lol jesus dude, nobody agreed with "most Trumpers are racist". I agreed you tried to deflect to that.

You feeling okay? You're not doing well today.

Originally posted by Surtur
Cite this super scientific study.

This will be fun.

The top 5 attributes men with small penises exhibited were:

voting for Donald Trump (-16.2)
being religious (-11.9)
more inclined to gossip (-9.54)
being good at math (-9.64)
and driving a large car (-8.36).

Boom science.

Disclaimer: most likely not based on real science.

😄

Originally posted by Surtur
I don't have PDD, but I'd love to see you back up your claim.

It's like you're trying to convince yourself here...

Originally posted by Raptor22
http://danariely.com/2016/03/31/trump-supporters-linked-with-having-small-penises/

The top 5 attributes men with small penises exhibited were:

voting for Donald Trump (-16.2)
being religious (-11.9)
more inclined to gossip (-9.54)
being good at math (-9.64)
and driving a large car (-8.36).

Boom science.

Disclaimer: most likely not based on real science.

😄

I love that, it's so ridiculous no credible human being could claim it's credible.

Now I want someone on this forum to claim it's credible. Just one 🙂

Originally posted by Robtard
It's like you're trying to convince yourself here...

Originally posted by MythLord
I mean, isn't it usually required of prisons to pay for the medical needs of their prisoners?

Also, isn't this what the "Triggered" thread is for?

Bingo.

Originally posted by Eon Blue
Bingo.

It's not really a bingo in this case though because it brings up all kinds of other questions.

You can laugh, but I've known women who legitimately have gotten very depressed about their bodies. We're talking more than just being afraid to look in a mirror.

If these women were imprisoned...say, one was given a 5 year sentence, what then? If it's her nose that makes her depressed, do we give her a nose job? What if she wants a tummy tuck? Or a face lift? Or some boobies? Or butt implants? What if a doctor says "butt implants will help her emotional well being"(I will note prison doctors did *not* say this about this inmate, that the surgery would help)?

And I wonder if this person was given ANY sort of therapy prior to this. And as I said: the treating physicians advised against this. The attorneys are saying he needs it(surely they are doctors who also work as attorneys every other Friday).

It is a bingo that this could have gone in the Triggered thread. But whatever, no real damage done.

As far as the state (ie tax payers) paying for an inmate's sex-change operation, that's debatable. On the surface, I don't personally see why the state should pay, but I'd be open to hearing both the medical and legal reasons.

Originally posted by Surtur
I don't have PDD, but I'd love to see you back up your claim.

I am not hearing that you do not have the underlying condition, only that you are not distressed about it.

Originally posted by Robtard
It is a bingo that this could have gone in the Triggered thread. But whatever, no real damage done.

As far as the state (ie tax payers) paying for an inmate's sex-change operation, that's debatable. On the surface, I don't personally see why the state should pay, but I'd be open to hearing both the medical and legal reasons.

Some topics warrant their own threads IMO.

It's crazy to give this sex offender a sex change and then move them to a women's prison.

Originally posted by Surtur
Some topics warrant their own threads IMO.

It's crazy to give this sex offender a sex change and then move them to a women's prison.

If they do get surgery, it would be crazier to keep them in a men's prison after the sex-change.

What if some of the female prisoners would be mentally distressed over his presence? What then? Whose feelings matter more?

Originally posted by Surtur
What if some of the female prisoners would be mentally distressed over his presence? What then? Whose feelings matter more?

Since when do prisoners get a say in with whom they share the prison? I am sure a white racist would be happier if they did not have to share a prison with black people, but it is not really up to them, is it?

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Since when do prisoners get a say in with whom they share the prison? I am sure a white racist would be happier if they did not have to share a prison with black people, but it is not really up to them, is it?

If that's the case prisoners shouldn't get a say in if they can go to a female prison if they aren't female.

Originally posted by Surtur
If that's the case prisoners shouldn't get a say in if they can go to a female prison if they aren't female.

Then it is a good thing the prisoner is not making that decision.

Rather, the government is deciding not to house people who present as women with men who are attracted to but do not have access to women.

It is almost like it is a safety concern irrespective of your ideology about the legitimacy of trans identities.

Originally posted by Surtur
If that's the case prisoners shouldn't get a say in if they can go to a female prison if they aren't female.

If they're legally now female after hormones and surgery, they belong in a woman's prison.

Keeping them in a men's prison would also make them even bigger targets of sexual assault and rape.

So then if the women in the prison fear for their safety because a man is going to be there it is irrelevant. I understand perfectly.

Originally posted by Robtard
If they're legally now female after hormones and surgery, they belong in a woman's prison.

Keeping them in a men's prison would also make them even bigger targets of sexual assault and rape.

Keep them in solitary then.

Originally posted by Surtur
Keep them in solitary then.