Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It doesn't get taxed by that as salot more is required and nothing claimed it was taxed. Headcanon isn't useful here
It's how his mutant power works. It's being elaborated on here, for example:
Wolverine had taken a shitload of punishment before he fought Mister X. Ignoring that is ridiculous.
Re: Can Batman KO Wolverine?
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
DiscussBatman is at maximum strength here. Can he KO logan unconscious?
Just if it's even for a minute...
Batman has knocked out Wonder Woman villains with a single blow.
If it's only for a minute, of course he can knock Wolverine unconscious.
The idea that it takes Hulk-level force to knock out Wolverine isn't consistently supported by Wolverine's actual comic book appearances, either.
Wolverine versus Daredevil.
Source: Wolverine #24, Volume 3. Enemy of the State, Part 5 of 6.
Wolverine versus Captain America.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=641421&pagenumber=9
Source: Wolverine #25, Volume 3. Enemy of the State, Part 6 of 6.
Wolverine versus Sabretooth.
Source: Wolverine #10, Volume 1.
Wolverine versus Spider-Man.
Source: Superior Spider-Man storyline (Otto Octavius a.k.a. Doctor Octopus)
Wolverine versus Thing.
Source: Fantastic Four versus X-Men 4-part miniseries
Wolverine versus Namor.
Source: New Warriors storyline ... Wolverine and Namor bring the villain Nitro to justice after the murder of Namorita
Wolverine versus Magneto.
Source: Uncanny X-Men. Want to say issue 108, Volume 1.
Wolverine versus Hulk.
Source: The Incredible Hulk #181, Volume 1.
Originally posted by Damborgson
I mean, Parker had his chance to prove it:So it seems clear that if Wolverine can take this, he can take pretty much any punch Batman could deliver.
Parker has world of cardboard syndrome. Odds are, he was hitting with LESS force then Batman there, who could nail a meta with more then enough force to shatter a normals skull.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Don't be ridiculous.
Sin Eater.
One of the few times Parker completely goes off on a normal human level character. Beats him so bad, he ended up a stuttering cripple. Peter literally jumped out the window when he saw what he did.
Now, you think someone like that wouldn't sub consciously pull his punch's back so far, he'd barely bruise a normal guy where someone like Batman would shatter a femur? Much less a "Batman Year One" extended hospitalization a S.W.A.T. guy enjoyed for shooting at a cat?
Originally posted by cdtm
Sin Eater.One of the few times Parker completely goes off on a normal human level character. Beats him so bad, he ended up a stuttering cripple. Peter literally jumped out the window when he saw what he did.
Now, you think someone like that wouldn't sub consciously pull his punch's back so far, he'd barely bruise a normal guy where someone like Batman would shatter a femur? Much less a "Batman Year One" extended hospitalization a S.W.A.T. guy enjoyed for shooting at a cat?
Sin-Eater beatdown is an outlier though. That was not a typical Spider man
I love how in so many Wolverine threads, Parker is for some reason brought up as this certain reference point, when really, who would win in a forum fight between those two characters is to this day one of the most debated topics, and it never ends with everyone in agreement.
If you want to argue that Spider-Man can’t knock out Wolverine and therefore neither can Batman, I disagree but that’s fine. Superior Spider-Man didn’t get any additional speed or strength amps, just Otto’s mind, and Logan was taken down swiftly, even if he also recovered quickly, and that’s just how that looks to me.
As Leo pointed out long ago, people who want to read a good Wolverine story rarely want to seem him lose as long as he’s got his grit, adamantium, and healing factor, so that’s just how it’s gonna be for him most often.
Spider-Man scratches a totally different, relatable, underdog-oriented itch so he’s written to get his ass kicked by geezers like Vulture despite supposedly superior strength, speed, intelligence, range, agility, and pre-cog because even with all that he’s still “human” and gets in his own way.
Both are great characters and those who pick one over the other have good reason to do so, but Spider-Man isn’t in this fight. Batman, on the other hand, is similar to Wolverine in that he wins way more than power set would indicate. He has a “plan” for everything. So, knocking out Wolverine? Very unlikely but possibly. I mean it comics.
