Originally posted by Bentley
You could just switch Thor and Thing and nobody would notice
Thing wouldn't suck so bad.
As for your earlier post, Thor "killed" Sentry only because:
1) he was amped by Norn Stones
2) he had an entire team backing him up, also amped by Norn Stones
3) Bob wanted to be defeated
4) one could argue Sentry killing Ares weakened him, if we count that What if intro which elaborates on that
One-on-one, he got raped by Sentry, who wasn't even in his full crab form yet.
Shame Marvel doesn’t know what to do with Sentry.
Marvel Executive: what’s next for Sentry?
Writer: i don’t know. Maybe make him go to space for whatever reason????
Marvel Executive: didn’t we already do that like 3 times already?
Writer: yes, but this time he will have a new color scheme
Marvel Executive: Brillant! back he goes to Limbo
Originally posted by -K-M-So true, though. Sentry comes back every couple years with something new going on with his powers, stays around for a few issues, then flies back into space for another few years... He's like the comic version of Raz, ffs.
Shame Marvel doesn't know what to do with Sentry.Marvel Executive: what's next for Sentry?
Writer: i don't know. Maybe make him go to space for whatever reason????
Marvel Executive: didn't we already do that like 3 times already?
Writer: yes, but this time he will have a new color scheme
Marvel Executive: Brillant! back he goes to Limbo
Sentry fans will probably hate me for this, but I think Marvel needs to get rid of the whole Void dynamic(it's just an old and predictable trope with him at this point), and just make Sentry a hyper-powerful Superman analogue with a mild personality disorder... Then put him back on a team book and let the stories flow.
I thoroughly enjoyed Sentry back when he was on the New Avengers lineup, and I feel like that's what they need to do with him again... Except no Void bullshit every other issue.
Originally posted by Galan007
So true, though. Sentry comes back every couple years with something new going on with his powers, stays around for a few issues, then flies back into space for another few years... He's like the comic version of Raz, ffs.Sentry fans will probably hate me for this, but I think Marvel needs to get rid of the whole Void dynamic(it's just an old and predictable trope with him at this point), and just make Sentry a hyper-powerful Superman analogue with a mild personality disorder... Then put him back on a team book and let the stories flow.
I thoroughly enjoyed Sentry back when he was on the New Avengers lineup, and I feel like that's what they need to do with him again... Except no Void bullshit every other issue.
Different writers do different things. At some point you have to toss it out if it isn't contiguous with where we left off last.
Originally posted by tkitna
I knew they were going to job Sentry in the Black Panther book. He went from taking care of the Avengers A team with just a gesture to getting hurt by the Wasps stings, a BP kick, and getting schooled by Z class nobodies.*sigh*
I mean, you have to be realistic about it: It's a Black Panther & Friends book. The Sentry was not in the book, so that Jim Zub could shine some light on him as a character. Sentry was in the book, because his powers were perfect for putting a good amount of the Agents of Wakanda into the spotlight. Sentrys Jedi Mind Tricks showed us Okoyes, Wasps and Fat Cobras self-doubts and anxieties. Fat Cobra even got to do more.
And me personally, I didn't even view it as jobbing. It would have been jobbing, if you had the Sentry at full power being tossed around. Obviously, no matter how weakened the Sentry is, someone like Okoye shouldn't even be in the same country as him, when it comes to a fight. But we both know that you can't comics like that.
It was nice to see, that Jim Zub at least put some effort into powering the Sentry down by making him basically fight himself (again). The mental attacks for example. Both Okoye and Wasp were able to fight Sentrys mental assault off. Remember all the other times Wasp was attacked by the Sentry mentally? She was lying on the ground and crying. Everyone was.
I'm more curious what's next for the Sentry. I read that he'll appear somewhere else after his appearance in 'Black Panther and the Agents of Wakanda'. I'm very much looking forward to it.
Originally posted by Enzeru
I mean, you have to be realistic about it: It's a Black Panther & Friends book. The Sentry was not in the book, so that Jim Zub could shine some light on him as a character. Sentry was in the book, because his powers were perfect for putting a good amount of the Agents of Wakanda into the spotlight. Sentrys Jedi Mind Tricks showed us Okoyes, Wasps and Fat Cobras self-doubts and anxieties. Fat Cobra even got to do more.And me personally, I didn't even view it as jobbing. It would have been jobbing, if you had the Sentry at full power being tossed around. Obviously, no matter how weakened the Sentry is, someone like Okoye shouldn't even be in the same country as him, when it comes to a fight. But we both know that you can't comics like that.
It was nice to see, that Jim Zub at least put some effort into powering the Sentry down by making him basically fight himself (again). The mental attacks for example. Both Okoye and Wasp were able to fight Sentrys mental assault off. Remember all the other times Wasp was attacked by the Sentry mentally? She was lying on the ground and crying. Everyone was.I'm more curious what's next for the Sentry. I read that he'll appear somewhere else after his appearance in 'Black Panther and the Agents of Wakanda'. I'm very much looking forward to it.
I'm aware of what your saying, but your way more lax about the whole thing than I am. I understand the entire point was to make the actual characters of the book look good, but at least make it somewhat more realistic to the actual characterization of the Sentry. Crying out in pain after a sting from the Wasp,,,,seriously? A distraction I can understand, but actually being hurt I cant get behind. Sentry took shots in the head and face from Thors hammer but yet the Black Panther kicks him in the chest and hurts him? It was pretty poor writing in my opinion.
Originally posted by Bentley
Thor got destroyed.So... since Thor is Superman's equal in everything, then Sentry wins here
Except Thor's equivalent is Donna Troy or Superboy
It's like saying since khabib (sentry) has beaten down McGregor(Thor), he now can take Jon Jones (Superman). When more than half the UFC roster can kill McGregor. Beating Thor isn't a feat. Stilt has been doing it every afternoon as bedroom foreplay
Originally posted by tkitnaI'm aware of what your saying, but your way more lax about the whole thing than I am. I understand the entire point was to make the actual characters of the book look good, but at least make it somewhat more realistic to the actual characterization of the Sentry. Crying out in pain after a sting from the Wasp,,,,seriously? A distraction I can understand, but actually being hurt I cant get behind. Sentry took shots in the head and face from Thors hammer but yet the Black Panther kicks him in the chest and hurts him? It was pretty poor writing in my opinion.
Nah, you're completely right. More effort should be put into a proper portrayal for sure.
Although I disagree with the Sentry being in pain. The dialogue made it more look like they were just annoying the hell out of him and pushing him around. Wasp said that keeping him off-balance was good.
To me it was more of a "Ughh, stop bothering me, you idiots". He didn't really make noises, when he was being attacked by Thor. His fist collided with Mjolnir and he was emo-monologuing about his inner demons.
Also, the dialogue had made it clear that the Agents of Wakanda were fighting an uphill battle and that they were going to die, if they don't come up with a solution. So it's not all bad. That's probably why I'm chill about it.
