Dooku from RotS would destroy Vader from RotJ. He's just far faster, more skilled, and far more liberal with his force powers. Iirc he kicked Anakin unconscious for a bit and then hurled Kenobi clean across the hangar, then dropped some wreckage on him.
Maul isn't even needed, but he'd win against Vader solo as well.
Originally posted by KingD19
Dooku from RotS would destroy Vader from RotJ. He's just far faster, more skilled, and far more liberal with his force powers. Iirc he kicked Anakin unconscious for a bit and then hurled Kenobi clean across the hangar, then dropped some wreckage on him.Maul isn't even needed, but he'd win against Vader solo as well.
That part was hilarious though, Dooku drops some debris on Obi Wan in the most loving way possible. It's like he took extra care to make sure it did zero damage to him.
I would still give it to vader honesty. He may not be as fast as he used to be, but he is still fast enough to keep up with force users such as asoka and he uses force powers a lot more liberally as seen in his fight with luke in episode 5 and to rogue one massacre. He also beat dooku pretty easily by himself without the too much acrobatics
Originally posted by Surtur
That part was hilarious though, Dooku drops some debris on Obi Wan in the most loving way possible. It's like he took extra care to make sure it did zero damage to him.
Yeah. After blasting him 150+ feet into a guard railing so hard it dented around his body, he gently drops debris so it pins him in place without actually touching him.
And yeah if this was Vader with his feats from Rebels, he'd have easily won this fight.
Vader from ROTJ implies all canon feats up until that point are useable, therefore Rebels stuff is usable and Vader wins, Old Maul is nothing and got wrecked by Old Ben in three moves, Dooku is the only feasible challenge and he gets dusted too, Dookus specific weakness is kinetic energy AKA lightsaber blows with massive strength behind them and cyborg Vader is even stronger than Anakin in that regard... Anakin who easily bested Dooku this way I might add and as far as Force goes, Dooku was a beast yes but Vaders usage of the Force in ESB and Rebels is a much more lethal usage of TK that Dooku exhibited so yeah, I think Vader could win.
Keep in mind the only reason Vader looked like a punk to noob Luke is because he was conflicted and didn't wanna kill his own kid. Against other opponents he'd be the same old Vader; no mercy.
If we take in canon, then Vader certainly has a better chance.
I think Rebels Maul, even peak Maul, could be defeated by Vader.
However, Dooku does turn things arround.
Yet, I see Vader being able to take Maul out, leaving this battle into a 1v1 between Darth Vader and Darth Tyranus.
The question is whether old and crippled Anakin has it in him to defeat Dooku once more...
The answer is no.
Originally posted by Surtur
Legit took Anakin like 4 minutes to kill Dooku with a lightsaber. I'm guessing it'd be much quicker if he just used the force on that b*tch.
Anakin beat Dooku in saber combat. Force-wise, Dooku was always superior, far superior.
In that manner, I must admit that Vader's TK is high tier, even one to rival Dooku's.
However, the Force isn't determined by TK alone. In that manner, Dooku would have the upper hand due to Force Lightning.
Besides, Vader's saber combat is far different from Anakin's.
Anakin was able to defeat Dooku because of his unique fighting technique (if we take the theories that Dooku lost on purpose).
Vader on his side is a more wise and precise duelist. In that manner, he would lose to Dooku's saber style.